Simi Botic, an author and founder of Unmeasured, joins to unpack the themes behind the new zine 'PIVOT'. They reflect on a decade of friendship that has fostered creativity and personal growth. The conversation touches on the discomfort of revisiting past work and the importance of self-acceptance. They share how impactful literature can inspire change, and reminisce about their early creative collaborations. Finally, they emphasize the joy of genuine storytelling and the significance of community in launching new ventures.