One Tree Hill star Bethany Joy Lenz knows a lot about cults – from personal and professional experience. While she stared in a show about cults, Bethany found herself in the Big House Family church covenant, a bible study group-turned-cult that isolated her from her family

and peers.

Joining a cult is much easier than you might think, and incredibly smart people join cults often. According to Bethany, cults like the one she joined prey on your desire for community, approval, and deep conversation. They use these desires as tools to isolate. But any narcissist will use the same tools, so it’s important to recognize them at work, in family, and in relationships.

Hear Bethany’s journey to recovery in her faith and relationships, and learn how she redefined her life.

• 05:06 Craving Approval From Others
• 07:24 When Community Becomes A Cult
• 12:57 Isolation and Rebuilding Relationships
• 18:31 How Narcissists Gain Your Respect
• 22:13 Us vs. Them Mentality
• 26:35 Learning How To Apologize
• 29:33 Relearning Relationships
• 33:08 Brutal Honesty

For more from Joy, follow her at @msbethanyjoylenz or her podcast, Drama Queens, at @dramaqueensoth. Find her new memoir, Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While also in an Actual Cult!) where books are sold. 

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