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Criminal
Ava and the Pickpocket
Feb 14, 2025
Ava Do, a former pickpocket turned mentalist, and Apollo Robbins, a world-renowned pickpocket and magician, share their unique insights on deception and psychology. They recount Ava's thrilling past on the Las Vegas Strip and her journey from theft to mentalism. The duo explores the complexities of love and trust at the Magic Castle, revealing how their careers intertwine with romance. They also discuss the moral implications of crime, reflecting on vulnerability and critical thinking in an engaging conversation on ethics and illusion.
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- Ava Do's transition from physical pickpocketing to information theft reveals a complex understanding of deception's psychological dimensions.
- Her upbringing in post-war Vietnam shaped her perception of layered narratives, influencing her approach to relationships and ethical dilemmas.
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The Evolution to Information Theft
Ava Doe transitioned from being a skilled pickpocket to focusing on information theft, driven by her talent rather than financial gain. She detailed an experience where she stole a watch on the Vegas Strip, emphasizing that her motivation was the thrill of the act itself. Ava’s journey led her to realize that her skills could be repurposed to steal not just physical objects, but also valuable information. This change of direction signified a deeper engagement with the complexities of deception beyond mere theft.
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