Ava Do

Ava Do, a former pickpocket turned mentalist, and Apollo Robbins, a world-renowned pickpocket and magician, share their unique insights on deception and psychology. They recount Ava's thrilling past on the Las Vegas Strip and her journey from theft to mentalism. The duo explores the complexities of love and trust at the Magic Castle, revealing how their careers intertwine with romance. They also discuss the moral implications of crime, reflecting on vulnerability and critical thinking in an engaging conversation on ethics and illusion.

Ava Do, a former pickpocket turned mentalist, and Apollo Robbins, a theatrical pickpocket, share their intriguing love story rooted in deception. They discuss Ava's unique journey from postwar Vietnam to mastering sleight-of-hand under Apollo’s guidance. Their playful relationship is marked by trust tests involving magic and surprise jewelry thefts. Together, they formed a brain trust of deception experts, exploring the ethics of their craft. They also emphasize the importance of critical thinking in raising their daughter, Maya, blending magic with life lessons.