Freakonomics Radio

627. Sludge, Part 1: The World Is Drowning in It

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Mar 28, 2025
Benjamin Handel, a Professor of Economics at UC Berkeley, and Neale Mahoney, a Stanford University Economics Professor, dive into the perplexing issue of 'sludge'—bureaucratic inefficiencies that complicate everyday interactions. They discuss the frustrating complexities of the U.S. healthcare system, contrasting it with more streamlined models. The conversation also highlights the challenges consumers face with subscription services, exploring how automated systems can entrap users, impacting their finances and experiences dramatically.
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ANECDOTE

DMV Fiasco

  • Stephen Dubner shares a frustrating DMV experience.
  • Booking an appointment through AAA didn't reduce his wait time, highlighting how simple tasks become complicated.
INSIGHT

Defining Sludge

  • Easy sign-ups with difficult cancellations and complex forms exemplify "sludge."
  • "Sludge" describes when simple things are made complicated, slow, or frustrating.
INSIGHT

Inadvertent Sludge

  • Richard Thaler categorizes some sludge as inadvertent or incompetent.
  • He gives the example of Norman doors, which have handles that look like pulls but must be pushed.
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