The A24 Podcast

Make It Come Alive with Isabella Rossellini & Willem Dafoe

Jul 20, 2022
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INSIGHT

The Making Matters More Than The Release

  • Rossellini and Dafoe value the collaborative process more than press tours, reviews, or the finished film.
  • Their work improves when actors enter the director’s intelligence, respond to feedback, and relinquish control over the final result.
ANECDOTE

Bob Wilson Freed Isabella From Literal Meaning

  • Rossellini admitted she understood neither Umberto Eco’s play nor its novel, but Bob Wilson replied that he did not understand them either.
  • Wilson used mystery, rhythm, and fear rather than literal comprehension, freeing her to treat performance as abstraction.
INSIGHT

Mystery Can Create Deeper Emotional Involvement

  • Poetic theater engages audiences through puzzlement and curiosity rather than a fully explained narrative.
  • Dafoe compares this experience to poetry, where ambiguity creates deeper emotional involvement than simply following a recognizable plot.
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