

28. DIY or DOA? Why Org Change Needs Outside Help
25 snips Jun 16, 2025
The hosts dive into the pitfalls of DIY organizational change, noting how reliance on internal efforts often stalls progress. They discuss personal anecdotes of kitchen disasters as metaphors for transformation failures. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration and external support to avoid getting stuck in improvement cycles. Listeners learn about the hidden costs of self-driven change and the benefits of expert partnership, comparing it to hiring a personal trainer for better results. Ultimately, it's about finding the right balance for effective change.
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Cooking Wins and Fails
- Rodney Evans tried making stewed apples for breakfast but burned them because he got distracted.
- Sam Spurlin shared his success of consistently cooking dinner at home, celebrating small daily victories.
DIY Change Often Cycles Failure
- DIY transformation efforts often follow a 'try, fail, repeat' pattern.
- Internal teams frequently struggle to sustain change efforts despite good intentions.
Value of DIY Transformation Energy
- The DIY impulse is positive because it keeps transformation energy alive even after external help leaves.
- True success requires internal teams to maintain momentum beyond external consultants.