The Circuit

Episode 109: Unpacking the Nuances of Deep Seek with Austin Lyons

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Mar 16, 2025
Austin Lyons, an AI development expert and researcher at Deep Seek, shares insights into the innovative AI lab that blends advanced technology with self-funding. He discusses how Deep Seek is breaking through hardware limitations and optimizing training efficiency. The conversation highlights the lab's ability to innovate amidst market challenges, the significance of its mixture of experts approach, and the implications of U.S. chip regulations on AI advancements. Lyons also addresses the future of AI scaling, dispelling the myth that the field has plateaued.
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INSIGHT

DeepSeek's Origins

  • DeepSeek, an AI lab from China, has made a splash in the AI world.
  • It originated from HighFlyer, a quantitative hedge fund, and is self-funded.
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DeepSeek's Models

  • DeepSeek offers both "thinking fast" models (like GPT-3.5) and "reasoning" models.
  • The reasoning models, like R1, were developed through reinforcement learning and fine-tuning.
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DeepSeek's MOE Innovation

  • DeepSeek innovated in mixture-of-experts (MOE) models, achieving higher efficiency than competitors like Mistral.
  • This allows for larger model intelligence with lower computational costs.
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