Austin Lyons, an AI development expert and researcher at Deep Seek, shares insights into the innovative AI lab that blends advanced technology with self-funding. He discusses how Deep Seek is breaking through hardware limitations and optimizing training efficiency. The conversation highlights the lab's ability to innovate amidst market challenges, the significance of its mixture of experts approach, and the implications of U.S. chip regulations on AI advancements. Lyons also addresses the future of AI scaling, dispelling the myth that the field has plateaued.