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Attention Wars: How Lies Spread Online Have Real-World Consequences | Renée DiResta

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Aug 28, 2024

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Renée DiResta

Renée DiResta, a technical research manager at Stanford Internet Observatory, dives into the alarming effects of online manipulation and misinformation. She discusses how the shift from traditional journalism to social media has altered the rules of truth-telling. The rise of influencers and the emergence of AI-generated content farms play pivotal roles in shaping public perception. Renée also explores the psychological impact of digital engagement and the societal consequences of misinformation, emphasizing the urgent need for media literacy in today's world.

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ANECDOTE

Trust Me, I'm Lying

Ryan Holiday's first book, Trust Me, I'm Lying, explored early online media manipulation.
It was initially rejected but later became influential, highlighting his concerns about the industry.

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The Harder They Fall

Bud Schulberg's novel, The Harder They Fall, impacted Ryan Holiday's career path.
Though impactful, it took Holiday years to act on the book's lessons about integrity and resisting corruption.

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Media Literacy

Media literacy is crucial for navigating the complex online world.
Without it, individuals are vulnerable to manipulation by those seeking power and influence.

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“If you make it trend, you make it true” is a terrifyingly real quote across the cover of Renée DiResta’s book, Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality. Renée DiResta studies the many ways that people attempt to manipulate or target others online, similar to what Ryan talks about in his first book, Trust Me, I’m Lying. In this episode, Renée and Ryan talk about the shift from traditional journalism ethics to the new realm of social media influence, the psychological impact of online engagement, and the societal consequences of misinformation.

Renée DiResta is a technical research manager at Stanford Internet Observatory and has briefed world leaders, advised Congress, the State Department, and a myriad of organizations on how online manipulation can take different forms.

Renée's book, Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality, is all about the virtual rumor mill and how niche propagandists can shape public opinion.

She was also featured in Netflix’s documentary, The Social Dilemma which came out in 2020. You can follow Renée on X @noUpside, or check out her website reneediresta.com

📚 Grab a copy of Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality at The Painted Porch | https://www.thepaintedporch.com

📕Trust Me I’m Lying by Ryan Holiday | https://www.thepaintedporch.com

📚 The Harder They Fall by Budd Schulberg | https://www.thepaintedporch.com

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