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#119: When Things Get Hard, Say This (It Works in Any Race) with Jeff Pelletier

Jan 24, 2026
Jeff Pelletier, ultra runner and filmmaker from Vancouver known for Badwater 135 and Moab 240, shares mental strategies for long-distance racing. Short sentences cover pushing through low points, problem-solving on trail, reset tactics like brief naps and moving again, and why the hardest moments become most meaningful. Practical tips on transitioning from road to trail and pacing for extreme events round out the conversation.
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Reframe Goals Beyond Time Targets

  • Reframe goals if time-based targets demotivate you and chase different challenges like hills, heat, or distance.
  • Use new goals to sustain motivation as you age or face diminishing returns on speed.
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Mix Road Speed Into Trail Training

  • Incorporate road speed work to keep turnover and finishing kick even as a trail runner.
  • Schedule occasional fast road races or track sessions to maintain pacing sense.
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Join A Trail Community Early

  • Find a local trail group or clinic to learn pacing, safety, gear, and nutrition quickly.
  • Lean on experienced runners to shorten the trail-learning curve and improve safety.
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