It’s no surprise that we’re fans of self-management, and we talk a lot about its benefits and transformative potential. But sometimes we forget just how much traditional hierarchy is baked into the operating system of our work cultures—and of our personal lives. So when self-management and hierarchy smash into each other, there can be a steep, sometimes uncomfortable learning curve.

In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk with Michael Y. Lee, an assistant professor of organizational behavior at INSEAD, about how orgs prepare and smartly scaffold for self-management, growing academic research into impactful org design, and how the pandemic presented a unique challenge for his work.

Learn more about Michael on LinkedIn or at his website.

Learn more about INSEAD on their website or on Youtube.

Mentioned references:

• Oura ring
• Dave’s Hot Chicken in Denver, CO
• Voodoo Doughnut
• Zappos
• Holacracy
• ”mastery”: BNW Ep. 31
• Valve, video game company
• The Ready's OS Canvas
• Doug Kirkpatrick and The Morning Star Company: BNW Ep. 54 with Doug Kirkpatrick
• Haier
• anti-fragility
• "Lisa Gill episode": BNW Ep. 73 with Lisa Gill
• Michael’s episode of Lisa Gill’s podcast

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