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There Is No Planet B, with Mike Berners-Lee and Matthew Taylor

Jan 17, 2020
In a riveting discussion, climate change expert Mike Berners-Lee, author of "There Is No Planet B," joins Matthew Taylor to tackle real actions for sustainability. They delve into the urgency of collective action against climate change, critiquing corporate greenwashing and the need for genuine accountability. The conversation navigates individual responsibility, emphasizing personal growth's role in societal change. They also explore the complexities of sustainability in fashion and draw parallels between changing attitudes towards smoking and the fight for a low-carbon future.
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ANECDOTE

Shell Conference Dissonance

  • Mike Berners-Lee attended a Shell conference on the low-carbon future.
  • He found a disconnect between their plausible-sounding claims and the reality of their actions.
INSIGHT

Reasons for Climate Change Denial

  • People fail to grasp climate change due to lack of understanding, discomfort, or cynical self-interest.
  • These reasons necessitate different approaches when discussing climate change.
ANECDOTE

Fast Fashion's Marginal Distraction

  • Matthew Taylor observes the fast fashion industry's unsustainable practices despite discussions of circularity.
  • Shops selling cheap clothes highlight the gap between marginal change and the core economic reality.
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