
Transformative Leadership Conversations with Winnie da Silva The Immunity to Change with Dr. Deborah Helsing
Jun 26, 2024
Dr. Deborah Helsing, a renowned expert from Minds at Work and Harvard, dives into the Immunity to Change model, revealing how our inner fears and assumptions can block personal growth. She highlights the essential role of the limbic system in signaling threats and how neuroplasticity allows our brains to adapt. Deborah shares practical steps for mapping our immunities, challenging our beliefs through safe experiments, and leveraging coaching and peer support for effective change. This conversation is a deep dive into overcoming resistance and fostering growth.
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
Change Can Be Blocked By Self-Protection
- Immunity to change is a protective system that blocks progress even when we sincerely want to improve.
- It operates via fears and assumed losses that run under conscious intentions and keep us stuck.
Fear Hijacks Reason During Change
- The limbic system triggers alarm bells that hijack rational thought when change feels threatening.
- Bringing the prefrontal cortex back online lets you evaluate whether those alarms are accurate or exaggerated.
Coach Feedback Revealed A Hidden Fear
- Deborah used coaching feedback about being tougher to build her own immunity map and explore resistance.
- She discovered a fear of being seen as "a bitch" was limiting her willingness to push back.




