In today's episode, Kipp and Kieran talk about the power of building an A+ culture with a team that takes ownership. You'll also learn the difference between a manager and a leader, the importance of knowing the rules of the game AND, why you need to do exactly what your opponent thinks you're unwilling to do.

Links Mentioned:

• The Redeem Team documentary https://www.netflix.com/title/81452996 
• Rewatchable podcast https://www.theringer.com/the-rewatchables 

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