My guest for Ep204 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was George Hartley.

George is the Co-founder & Co-CEO of Bluethumb, Australia’s largest art marketplace.

Since its launch in 2012, Bluethumb has grown into the leading art marketplace platform, connecting over 23,000 artists with buyers and selling more than $100 million worth of artwork.

In addition to Bluethumb, George was also the Co-founder and CEO of SmartrMail, an email marketing platform designed to help e-commerce businesses delight their customers and boost sales. SmartrMail’s success led to its acquisition by Relay Commerce in 2022, delivering a 5x return to its seed investors.

In this episode, George shares insights into:

• Why Bluethumb waited three years to raise their seed round and why they’ve stayed bootstrapped since
• The importance of continuously taking risks and experimenting to drive growth
• The unique challenges and strategies for scaling consumer marketplaces versus SaaS companies

Timestamps:

• 1:49 George’s background
• 7:30 His journey from music to tech
• 11:33 How to know when to stick with something vs pivot
• 15:45 The early days of Bluethumb
• 19:52 Staying true to your vision despite external noise
• 24:18 The fundraising journey for Bluethumb
• 32:03 The SmarterMail journey
• 38:02 Identifying and hiring talent
• 45:34 How he thinks about taking risks and running experiments
• 52:54 US Expansion

Our partners:

A big thank you to Freddy Grant and Ed Hartley for their help with this interview!

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Links mentioned:

George’s links:

• George on LinkedIn
• Bluethumb
• Bluethumb on Instagram
• Art in my Home Podcast

People mentioned:

• Steve Jobs
• Richard Branson
• Edward Hartley
• Philip Slusarski
• Bradford D. Smart – Topgrading
• Freddy Grant
• Lorenzo Ghiberti

Companies mentioned:

• Costco
• Apple
• SoundCloud
• Luxury Escapes
• Zappos
• Startmate
• SmartrMail
• LivingSocial
• EVP
• Klayvio

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• Rohit@startupplaybook.co
• @RohitBhargava7 (Twitter)
• /rohbhargava (LinkedIn)
• @rohit_bhargava (Instagram)
• My Youtube Channel

Credits:

Music: Paycheck

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