Kristen Meinzer and Jolenta Greenberg are really good at testing things out. On their podcast, By The Book, they apply the advice given from different self help books to their own lives to see what’s actually helpful. From their discoveries, they went on to write How to be fine: What We Learned from Living by the Rules of 50 Self-Help books. Now, on their latest podcast, Romance Road Test, they’ve extended the experimenting to their partners. Their new show tests out relationship hacks in their marriages.

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