

Legacies and laughs: Tom Lehrer and Dame Cleo Laine
Aug 3, 2025
Join Andrew Ford as he reminisces with the brilliant Dame Cleo Laine, an acclaimed jazz singer with a four-octave vocal range, who discusses her love for Shakespeare and the importance of music education. The conversation also covers Tom Lehrer, a mathematician-turned-satirist known for his cheeky songs that tackle political issues, reflecting on his controversial 1960 Australian tour. Together, they explore the evolution of jazz, artistic expression, and the enduring relevance of satire in music, all while highlighting the legacy these icons leave behind.
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Dame Cleo Laine's Singing Journey
- Dame Cleo Laine shared her journey from singing in pubs to becoming an acclaimed jazz and versatile singer.
- Her career reflects a lifelong challenge to explore diverse musical styles beyond jazz.
Versatility Over Genre Labels
- Dame Cleo Laine sees herself primarily as a singer, not confined to jazz.
- She believes variety and constant challenge kept her artistry vibrant.
Jazz Meets Classical Flexibility
- Jazz and classical music differ in adherence to notes; jazz embraces deviation.
- Cleo Laine brings jazz spirit into classical pieces by not strictly following written notes.