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Oct 4, 2025 • 54min

Meow Meow's The Red Shoes and saxophonist Tessie Overmyer's Tidelands

Post-post-modern chanteuse Meow Meow returns to The Music Show to talk about The Red Shoes, the third show in her series of Hans Christian Anderson adaptations. She goes into both the music and the research behind the show, including the revelation of a Danish ballet dancer whose "feet ran away with her", that may have inspired the tale. Alto saxophonist and composer Tessie Overmyer has released her debut album as bandleader, Tidelands. She explains to Andrew Ford why she composes music on guitar, the headspace you need to be in to improvise, and how The Goodies influenced this record. The Red Shoes is at Belvoir St Theatre in Sydney 4 Oct - 9 Nov, and at Malthouse Theatre in Melbourne 19 Nov - 6 DecTessie Overmyer's Tidelands is out now via ABC Jazz. 
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Sep 28, 2025 • 54min

Red Headed Stranger: how Willie Nelson's obsession spawned a classic country album

Willie Nelson first encountered the song Red Headed Stranger in the 1950s, working as a DJ at radio station KCNC in Fort Worth TX. It was a jaunty number, sung by Arthur “Guitar Boogie” Smith and His Cracker-Jacks, about a less-than-jaunty subject. The stranger of the title rides into town on “a raging black stallion” leading a second horse, a bay, that had belonged to his dead wife. He meets a woman who tries to steal the bay and shoots her. Willie not only played the song on his radio show but sang it himself. Eventually, he made an album to provide the backstory the song so desperately needed. Red Headed Stranger came out in 1975 and marked a new beginning for Nelson. On the album’s fiftieth birthday, country singer songwriters Tami Neilson and Henry Wagons join Andy to listen to, and talk about, why it's one of the greatest country albums ever made.
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Sep 27, 2025 • 54min

Stormy skies, Bulgarian voices, and Mervyn Peake with Neko Case and remembering legendary bassist Danny Thompson

Neko Case's dazzling voice and kaleidoscopic band sound have developed slowly and assuredly over her 30 year recording career in what she calls "country noir", and her latest album Neon Grey Midnight Green is the latest instalment. She joins Andy to talk about the way her voice has changed over the years, her adoration of unconventional guitars, and the surprising literary inspirations behind her songwriting.The legendary upright bass player Danny Thompson has died at the age of 86. His music spanned folk, rock, jazz and blues and over his career he played with the likes of John Martyn, Nick Drake, Donovan, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel and Richard Thompson (no relation). He was also a founding member of the band Pentangle, which is one of the subjects up for discussion in an archive interview from The Music Show in 2007. 
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Sep 21, 2025 • 54min

Modern monodramas: deconstructing Pierrot Lunaire and unravelling The Big Idea

Laura Bowler is often described as a "composer, performer, and prevocatrice". That may be the perfect combination for "deconstructing" Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire, which she's done and is getting its Australian premiere for Ensemble Offspring's 30th birthday concert. She joins Andy to talk about her relationship to Schoenberg's original work, the "extractive" process of wrapping your identity up in your art, and what live electronics bring to her music.The Big Idea is a monodrama - a sort of micro-opera for one voice - and it's the work of composer Matthew Shlomowitz and philosopher/librettist Vid Simoniti, and it's being performed by Rubiks Collective with singer Lotte Betts-Dean for Rubiks' 10th birthday. It's a story about a character on the brink: "a new idea blossoms, a life unravels, and we witness the tantalising chaos in between". The chaos is rendered in a shapeshifting ensemble that switches from samba, to Scandi-jazz, to Romanticism, to old school Broadway. Matthew and Vid join Andy to talk about how philosophy and composition meet in their collaboration. And Neko Case makes the case for her top book of the 21st Century. Vote for yours in Radio National's Top 100 Books now.
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Sep 20, 2025 • 54min

Recovering and uncovering: early Black music from America and the Persian music of Afghanistan

Go Back and Fetch It: Recovering Early Black music in the Americas for Fiddle and Banjo is a new book, a collaboration between Carolina Chocolate Drops founder Rhiannon Giddens and music writer Kristina Gaddy. They both join Andy to talk about what they've uncovered. Ensemble Kaboul is an Afghan ensemble based in Europe, and they're headed to Australia to collaborate with Van Diemen's Band on Where Everything Is Music: the Persian music of Afghanistan meeting the baroque. Rubab player Khaled Arman sketches out the region and its musical history and tabla player Siar Hashimi talks about this music as the food of the soul, coming from a nation under a regime that has banned all music. 
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Sep 14, 2025 • 54min

Bleak Squad: a supergroup with DNA from Magic Dirt, the Bad Seeds and Dirty Three; and a striking conversation with percussionist Steven Schick

Adalita and Marty Brown join Andy to talk about their new supergroup with Mick Harvey and Mick Taylor - they're called Bleak Squad and with a history of playing with Magic Dirt, the Bad Seeds, Dirty Three as well as with artists like PJ Harvey and Clare Bowditch, it's a quartet with some serious power. A moody, charismatic guitar band - the likes of which you don't hear that much these days - Adalita and Marty join Andy to report that the kids are, in fact, listening to guitars, and explain how four big personalities have unified so well. American percussionist Steven Schick returns to The Music Show, and to Australia: he's here to play a series of concerts and masterclasses at the Australian National Academy of Music. He's been playing professionally for about fifty years and he talks to Andy about the repertoire that he's helped expand in that time, and his second career as a conductor.Plus Laura Bowler gives us her pick for the Top 100 Books of the 21st Century. Vote for yours at the Radio National website!Bleak Squad are playing in Sydney, Queenstown and Melbourne in October. Find the details on their website. Their debut album Strange Love is out now. Music in this program:Title: RebondsArtist: Steven SchickComposer: Iannis XenakisAlbum: Percussion WorksLabel: ModeTitle: Lost My HeadArtist: Bleak SquadComposer: AdalitaAlbum: Strange LoveLabel: Poison City RecordsTitle: Blue SignsArtist: Bleak SquadComposer: Adalita (lyrics), Marty Brown (music)Album: Strange LoveLabel: Poison City RecordsTitle: Safe as HousesArtist: Bleak SquadComposer: AdalitaAlbum: Strange LoveLabel: Poison City RecordsTitle: Bone AlphabetArtist: Steven SchickComposer: Brian FerneyhoughAlbum: Born To Be WildLabel: Newport ClassicTitle: AequilibriaArtist: Steven Schick, International Contemporary EnsembleComposer: Anna ThorvaldsdottirAlbum: AequaLabel: Sono LuminusThe Music Show is made on Gadigal and Gundungurra CountryTechnical production by Ann-Marie Debettencor
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Sep 13, 2025 • 54min

Irish trad-punk for the 21st century with the Mary Wallopers, and music for dark times with Deborah Cheetham-Fraillon

The Mary Wallopers are in Australia, far from their hometown of Dundalk in Ireland's County Louth. They're a raucous, political band with a folk/punk inheritance from bands like The Dubliners and the Pogues. Charles Hendy, who formed the band alongside his brother Andrew, is Andy's guest.We welcome Yorta Yorta/Yuin composer and soprano Deborah Cheetham Fraillon back to the music show to discuss the release of Eumeralla, A War Requiem for Peace on ABC Classic. This powerful requiem, sung in Gunditjmara dialects by Indigenous and non-Indigenous choirs and soloists, commemorates the brutal Eumeralla War of the late 19th century fought between Gunditjmara people and colonists in South Western Victoria. Deborah is also singing in Michael Tippett’s A Child of Our Time with Sydney Philharmonia Choirs at The Sydney Opera House on Saturday September 13. 
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Sep 7, 2025 • 54min

Bold performances in music new and old: Carolyn Sampson and Joseph Havlat

Carolyn Sampson is an English soprano who began her career in early music (Bach and before), working with some of the world's best-known specialists in historically informed performance. These days, she is just as likely to be heard singing Mahler. She talks about her developing career in a conversation recorded at this year's Australian Festival of Chamber Music. Also from the Festival, the fearless Australian-born, London-based pianist Joseph Havlat. He enjoys the challenge of new music and the more virtuosic the better. But he is also a composer, his music defying categorisation, veering between the deeply serious and hilariously funny - sometimes in the same piece. He talks to Andrew Ford about his playing and composing, and how they intersect.
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Sep 6, 2025 • 54min

Music teachers on screen, and how to score a film

Was your music teacher anything like the ones in the movies? Three academics - Hugh Gundlach and Rhiannon Simpson from Melbourne University and Katrina Rivera from ANU - join Andy to interrogate cinematic depictions of music teachers. From the dictators (Whiplash) to the heroes (Mr Holland's Opus) and the chaos engines in between (School of Rock), what do our fictional music teachers tell us about music education in the real world? And Freya Berkhout is an Australian film composer who made a leap of faith by moving to Hollywood two years ago, and she hasn’t looked back. Freya joins Andrew Ford to talk about surviving in the film industry 'machine', her approach to scoring comedy and horror, and the prevalent use of her voice in her soundtracks. Freya scored the documentary Surviving Malka Leifer, which just premiered at Melbourne International Film Festival.Surviving Malka Leifer is screening in the Jewish International Film Festival on September 18th (Sydney), and September 21st (Melbourne), and will be available to stream on Stan from October 5th.
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Aug 31, 2025 • 54min

80 years since the end of WWII: the Music of Remembrance with Jeremy Eichler

Four pieces of music written in the years after World War II – Strauss’s Metamorphosen, Schoenberg’s A Survivor from Warsaw, Britten’s War Requiem, and Shostakovich’s 13th Symphony, ‘Babi Yar’  – paint a complicated picture of how European composers memorialised war in Jeremy Eichler’s new book Time’s Echo. Jeremy joins Andy on the show to trace the connections and conflicts in the ways that a German, a Jewish Austrian in exile, an Englishman, and a Russian looked back at the war(s) and the Holocaust.This program was first broadcast in April 2024.

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