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All kinds of music and all kinds of musicians in conversation with Andrew Ford.
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Sep 7, 2025 • 54min
Bold performances in music new and old: Carolyn Sampson and Joseph Havlat
Carolyn Sampson is an English soprano who began her career in early music (Bach and before), working with some of the world's best-known specialists in historically informed performance. These days, she is just as likely to be heard singing Mahler. She talks about her developing career in a conversation recorded at this year's Australian Festival of Chamber Music. Also from the Festival, the fearless Australian-born, London-based pianist Joseph Havlat. He enjoys the challenge of new music and the more virtuosic the better. But he is also a composer, his music defying categorisation, veering between the deeply serious and hilariously funny - sometimes in the same piece. He talks to Andrew Ford about his playing and composing, and how they intersect.

Sep 6, 2025 • 54min
Music teachers on screen, and how to score a film
Was your music teacher anything like the ones in the movies? Three academics - Hugh Gundlach and Rhiannon Simpson from Melbourne University and Katrina Rivera from ANU - join Andy to interrogate cinematic depictions of music teachers. From the dictators (Whiplash) to the heroes (Mr Holland's Opus) and the chaos engines in between (School of Rock), what do our fictional music teachers tell us about music education in the real world? And Freya Berkhout is an Australian film composer who made a leap of faith by moving to Hollywood two years ago, and she hasn’t looked back. Freya joins Andrew Ford to talk about surviving in the film industry 'machine', her approach to scoring comedy and horror, and the prevalent use of her voice in her soundtracks. Freya scored the documentary Surviving Malka Leifer, which just premiered at Melbourne International Film Festival.Surviving Malka Leifer is screening in the Jewish International Film Festival on September 18th (Sydney), and September 21st (Melbourne), and will be available to stream on Stan from October 5th.

Aug 31, 2025 • 54min
80 years since the end of WWII: the Music of Remembrance with Jeremy Eichler
Four pieces of music written in the years after World War II – Strauss’s Metamorphosen, Schoenberg’s A Survivor from Warsaw, Britten’s War Requiem, and Shostakovich’s 13th Symphony, ‘Babi Yar’ – paint a complicated picture of how European composers memorialised war in Jeremy Eichler’s new book Time’s Echo. Jeremy joins Andy on the show to trace the connections and conflicts in the ways that a German, a Jewish Austrian in exile, an Englishman, and a Russian looked back at the war(s) and the Holocaust.This program was first broadcast in April 2024.

Aug 30, 2025 • 54min
A musical portrait of Guinea-Bissau, and pianist Ana-Maria Vera on surviving as a child prodigy
As a child prodigy, pianist Ana-Maria Vera made her concerto debut when she was nine, going on to record and perform with some of the world’s great orchestras (Philadelphia, Cleveland, London Philharmonic, Baltimore Symphony). In a conversation recorded at the Australian Festival of Chamber Music, Ana-Maria tells Andrew Ford about spending her formative years on the stage, her significant musical relationships with violinist Ivry Gitlis and teacher Leon Fleisher, and how her organisation Bolivia Clásica brings concerts, festivals and workshops to places like the mountains of La Paz and the Uyuni salt desert. Guinea-Bissau is a small country with rich musical traditions. New documentary film Nteregu surveys the music of the country from pre-colonial and colonial times to present. Instruments like the kora, balafon (gourd resonated xylophone) and Tina (floating gourd percussion played by women) are featured, as well as the griots and musicians who pass on this music to the next generations. The film also looks to a hopeful future where the music is recognised for its cultural heritage and reaches far beyond West Africa. Andrew speaks to Manuel Loureiro, one of the film’s directors.

Aug 24, 2025 • 54min
"I have seen rock and roll's future and its name is Bruce Springsteen": Born To Run at 50
Musician and academic Toby Martin, along with writer and critic Kerryn Goldsworthy, dive deep into Bruce Springsteen's iconic 'Born to Run,' celebrating its 50th anniversary. They explore the powerful themes of hope and escapism in tracks like ‘Thunder Road’ and ‘10th Avenue Freeze-Out.’ The discussion highlights the emotional resonance of Springsteen's lyrics, blending biblical imagery and American realities. Throughout, they reflect on Springsteen's masterful storytelling and the significant cultural impact of his music.

Aug 23, 2025 • 54min
Beyond bluegrass with Molly Tuttle, and harpist Marshall McGuire on bravery and leadership
The harpist Marshall McGuire is Chair of the Australian Music Centre. He made his name playing impossibly virtuosic music by modern composers, often pieces written specifically for him. He has worked with the ELISION Ensemble for 38 of the ensemble’s 39 years, and for most of the last decade was Director of Programming at the Melbourne Recital Centre. Marshall joins Andy in the studio to talk about the harp, working with composers and the future of artistic leadership.For a long time, Molly Tuttle’s name has been synonymous with bluegrass music in the US. She was the first woman to win the prestigious International Bluegrass Music Award’s Guitar Player of the Year, and she’s taken home two Best Bluegrass Album awards at the GRAMMYs (in 2023 and 2024). But she has more to prove. Her brand new album So Long Little Miss Sunshine covers varied musical ground, and sees her bringing those bluegrass traditions into pop. She chats to Andrew Ford about her approach to guitar (flatpicking, clawhammer, fingerstyle), writing a murder ballad, and what it was like growing up in a family band.

Aug 17, 2025 • 54min
Liz Pelly on the Spotify machine, and remembering jazz greats Judy Bailey and Sheila Jordan
Liz Pelly, a writer and editor based in New York, discusses her book, 'Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify,' revealing how the platform has altered music consumption and artist earnings. She delves into the challenges indie artists face in a streaming-dominated world and critiques the passive listening habits fostered by these platforms. The conversation also honors jazz legends Sheila Jordan and Judy Bailey, celebrating their contributions to music and their lasting educational impact on future generations.

Aug 16, 2025 • 54min
Leading an orchestra with Jaime Martín and putting words to music with DOBBY and Leah Senior
It's Poetry Month and our Middle of the Air competition (run in collaboration with Red Room Poetry) is in full swing. Two of our listeners who submit the winning poems will have their words turned into songs and recorded by rapper/composer DOBBY and singer songwriter Leah Senior. Both musicians are on The Music Show to talk about their different approaches to word setting, their favourite lyricists, and how poetry has influenced their songwriting.And The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra's Jaime Martín returns to The Music Show off the back of some guest conducting the Sydney Symphony. Andy and Jaime pick up where they left off, talking about Spanish music, French Spanish music, and orchestral leadership. Details of the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra's 2026 Season are available now.Leah Senior plays The Tote in Collingwood on Saturday 23 August.DOBBY's Warrangu: River Story is touring throughout August:Wellington - 18 AugustBrewarrina - 19 AugustDubbo - 20 AugustLithgow - 21 AugustWarilla - 22 AugustHe also appears at the National Poetry Month Gala in Sydney on Thursday 28 August

Aug 10, 2025 • 54min
Gregory Porter on his jazz foundations and Michael Collins on the clarinettist-composer relationship
Gregory Porter is becoming a harder and harder singer to pigeonhole. His voice is at home in gospel, blues, soul, and R&B, but the foundation of it all, he tells Andrew Ford, is jazz. Gregory and his band are returning to Australia soon and he joins The Music Show (from vacation in Mexico!) to talk about bringing strings and a choir into his music, maintaining optimism, and his tribute album to musical hero Nat King Cole.Andy finds a moment at the Australian Festival of Chamber Music to speak with British clarinettist Michael Collins. After reaching the finals of the inaugural BBC Young Musician at the age of 16 he's had a formidable career on the concert platform. He's staying in Australia a little longer as he prepares to premiere Graeme Koehne's double clarinet concerto with Omega Ensemble in Melbourne.

Aug 9, 2025 • 54min
Jerrah Patston's world in songs, and the music of outback fences and pied butcherbirds
Jerrah Patston is a singer and songwriter who’s part of Club Weld—a Parramatta-based studio for neurodiverse musicians run by the Arts & Cultural Exchange. Jerrah’s music contains observations about his everyday life - from local construction sites, events being cancelled due to weather, and the time he went to a Paul McCartney concert and didn't hear Mull of Kintyre. Jerrah’s just released his third full-length album Abandoned Cricket Games and we’ll meet him, as well as one of his Club Weld mentors and songwriting collaborators, Sam Worrad.Jon Rose and Hollis Taylor have been named as recipients of this year's Richard Gill Award for Distinguished Services to Australian Music, which will be conferred at the APRA AMCOS Art Music Awards in a couple of weeks. They join Andy to talk about their life together, bringing their violin skills to duets with pied butcherbirds and playing the fences of remote Australia like string instruments.