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Aug 9, 2025 • 54min
Jerrah Patston's world in songs, and the music of outback fences and pied butcherbirds
Jerrah Patston is a singer and songwriter who’s part of Club Weld—a Parramatta-based studio for neurodiverse musicians run by the Arts & Cultural Exchange. Jerrah’s music contains observations about his everyday life - from local construction sites, events being cancelled due to weather, and the time he went to a Paul McCartney concert and didn't hear Mull of Kintyre. Jerrah’s just released his third full-length album Abandoned Cricket Games and we’ll meet him, as well as one of his Club Weld mentors and songwriting collaborators, Sam Worrad.Jon Rose and Hollis Taylor have been named as recipients of this year's Richard Gill Award for Distinguished Services to Australian Music, which will be conferred at the APRA AMCOS Art Music Awards in a couple of weeks. They join Andy to talk about their life together, bringing their violin skills to duets with pied butcherbirds and playing the fences of remote Australia like string instruments.

Aug 3, 2025 • 54min
Legacies and laughs: Tom Lehrer and Dame Cleo Laine
Join Andrew Ford as he reminisces with the brilliant Dame Cleo Laine, an acclaimed jazz singer with a four-octave vocal range, who discusses her love for Shakespeare and the importance of music education. The conversation also covers Tom Lehrer, a mathematician-turned-satirist known for his cheeky songs that tackle political issues, reflecting on his controversial 1960 Australian tour. Together, they explore the evolution of jazz, artistic expression, and the enduring relevance of satire in music, all while highlighting the legacy these icons leave behind.

Aug 2, 2025 • 54min
Storytelling, beats and soundscapes on Warlpiri Country, and Gordon Kerry's new Requiem
Lajamanu is one of the most remote places in Central Australia, and it’s where we meet Wanta Jampijinpa Pawu-Kurlpurlurnu, his father Jerry Jangala Patrick OAM, and the music producer Marc ‘Monkey’ Peckham. Crown & Country is a new album and film that’s come out of more than a decade of friendship and collaboration between Wanta, Jerry and Monkey. Blending Warlpiri Jukurrpa (Dreaming) songs, cultural stories, soundscapes from the desert, and electronic beats, it’s a compelling and immersive way of sharing Warlpiri culture with new audiences.Gordon Kerry is one of Australia's most frequently commissioned composers with works in every musical genre. From his home on a hill in north-east Victoria, he has recently completed a new work for clarinet, cello and piano and a Requiem for a cappella choir. He discusses both these pieces and the traditions to which they belong on today's show.

Jul 27, 2025 • 54min
Ozzy Osbourne - the melodic voice of Black Sabbath, and announcing poetry and lyric competition Middle of the Air
Nicole Smede is a proud Warrimay woman with Irish ancestry, whose bio includes poet, musician, singer and composer. She’s on The Music Show to talk about how all of these things have come to intersect in her work, and about the joy and strength she's found in writing across forms and languages. Nicole is a current participant of the Ngarra Burria First Peoples Composers Program, and is also the First Nations Artistic Director at Red Room Poetry. As part of this interview we announce an exciting partnership between ABC Radio National and Red Room Poetry. It's a poetry competition called Middle of the Air, where two lucky poets will have their winning poems set to music and recorded by DOBBY and Leah Senior. Entries open 1 August. Find more details here. You can register for a free lyric writing workshop with Leah Senior and DOBBY on 6 August here.And we remember Black Sabbath's enigmatic frontman Ozzy Osbourne, who died this week at the age of 76. Joel Silbersher is our guide - he’s a Melbourne-based guitarist and a songwriter, playing across a bunch of different bands since the 1980s including GOD, Hoss and with Tex Perkins. Joel explains, while not a great lyric writer, Ozzy was a "genius melodist", and Black Sabbath's influence on rock, metal and alternative music cannot be overstated.

Jul 26, 2025 • 54min
Michael Atherton: A lifetime student of music from ancient Egypt, medieval Europe and beyond
Michael Atherton has had his fingers in so many musical pies it's hard to know how to sum him up. He is a composer, a music therapist, an educator, a writer of books and a multi-instrumentalist. Indeed, with the Renaissance Players, Sirocco, The Atherton Table Band and Southern Crossings, he has played so many instruments he must have lost count. Just turned 75, he can add memoirist to his list of achievements, and that was our cue to get him into the studio for a long chat and attempt to make sense of his varied career.Michael's memoir Never Miss A Beat is out now via Ashwood Publishing.

Jul 20, 2025 • 54min
Together Alone with Crowded House and talking About Ghosts with Mary Halvorson
Brooklyn-based jazz guitarist and composer Mary Halvorson has released a new album About Ghosts. Featuring her long-time improvisatory band Amaryllis, this time she’s also added two saxophonists into the mix. Mary speaks to Andrew Ford about what adding more horns allows her music to do, how an increased focus on composition has changed the way she improvises, and about some of her more surprising musical influences (people like Elliott Smith and Robert Wyatt).Together Alone is not Crowded House's most famous album, but for Barnaby Smith, it's their best. Recorded in the wild reaches of Karekare Beach in Aotearoa New Zealand, its sound and stories emerge directly from that place. Barnaby, who is the writer of 33 1/3: Together Alone, travelled to Karekare to absorb the atmosphere that precipitated the album joins Andy to make the case for this album in the output of one of Australasia's most successful bands.

Jul 19, 2025 • 54min
Ben Lee on mistakes, longevity and the power of pop music
Ben Lee is an influential Australian singer-songwriter known for hits like 'Catch My Disease' and 'Cigarettes Will Kill You.' He discusses the importance of pop music as a tool for emotional expression and societal change. Katie Yap, a Classical Freedman Fellow, shares insights from her project Multitudes, blending music and poetry with unique collaborators. They explore themes of collaboration, resilience in live performance, and the potential of music as a vehicle for activism in today's polarized world.

Jul 13, 2025 • 54min
Midge Ure on punk, pop and Ultravox and Nina Korbe on opera and advocacy
Midge Ure is a musical chameleon, his career having taken him from boy band, Slik (stable mates of the Bay City Rollers), to punk band, Rich Kids (with ex-Sex Pistol, Glen Matlock), to singer, guitarist and keyboard player with Ultravox, penning one of the great New Romantic anthems, “Vienna”. For the past thirty years he’s been a solo artist with an ever-evolving songbook and later this year he’s bringing it to Australia. He talks to Andy about his varied career and why Ultravox was never really synth pop – not when their biggest hit contained a viola solo.Nina Korbe is Koa, Kuku Yalanji, and Wakka Wakka singer and broadcaster. She joins Andy to talk about her operatic and music theatre career on the rise, and her advocacy work introducing kids from her family's traditional lands to orchestral performance.

Jul 12, 2025 • 54min
Putting together the pieces of Meredith Monk, and Christine Anu wins the 2025 NAIDOC Creative Talent Award
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are warned that the following program may contain the name and voices of people who have died. Meredith Monk is the subject of Billy Shebar's documentary Monk in Pieces, which will have its Australian premiere at Melbourne International Film Festival. Monk, now 82, has a storied career as a composer, vocalist and choreographer as well as many other artistic pursuits, leading to savage reviews and bumpy relationships with traditional opera companies across her career. But her unique creativity has inspired people like David Byrne and Björk, both of whom appear as her advocates in Monk in Pieces. Billy Shebar joins Andy to trace the process by which he assembled the pieces. Australian music icon and proud Torres Strait Islander Christine Anu has just been given the NAIDOC Creative Talent Award for 2025. Last year, she released her first album of new music in 20 years. Waku-Minaral A Minalay was recorded across the Pacific in places like New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, the Torres Strait Islands and the Solomon Islands - utilising traditional percussion instruments like the Warup (drums), the Urub (shakers) and the Kulap (seed pot rattles). It’s a deeply personal bilingual album which includes songs written by Christine Anu, her grandfather and her daughter.

Jul 6, 2025 • 54min
Listening to Country with composer James Howard, and the Stiff Gins celebrate 25 years
For Jaadwa composer, sound artist and electronic musician James Howard, sound, Country and identity are inextricable. His latest release is a reworking of his score for Australian Dance Theatre's Marrow, a work which interrogates our dominant cultural narratives, written amidst the 2023 referendum. He also recently had his orchestral composition Nyirrimarr Ngamatyata / To Lose Yourself at Sea premiered by the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra.The Stiff Gins are 25 years into what they hope is a lifelong partnership. Yuwaalaraay woman Nardi Simpson and Yorta Yorta and Wiradjuri woman Kaleena Briggs look back at a quarter century of making music together, from their first meeting at Eora college, to the changing landscape of language and touring. Back in 2023 they chatted to Andy and performed two songs live in The Music Show studio.