Join Andrew Ford as he reminisces with the brilliant Dame Cleo Laine, an acclaimed jazz singer with a four-octave vocal range, who discusses her love for Shakespeare and the importance of music education. The conversation also covers Tom Lehrer, a mathematician-turned-satirist known for his cheeky songs that tackle political issues, reflecting on his controversial 1960 Australian tour. Together, they explore the evolution of jazz, artistic expression, and the enduring relevance of satire in music, all while highlighting the legacy these icons leave behind.