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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

262. Beyond Order: Montreal Lecture | Jonathan Pageau

Jun 16, 2022
In this discussion, Jonathan Pageau, a Montreal-based Orthodox Christian artist and thinker, shares insights from his journey connecting with Jordan Peterson. They explore the nature of perception, the significance of sacrifice, and the intricate relationship between symbolism and sacred architecture. Pageau highlights the role of awe in understanding consciousness and values, drawing from ancient imagery to modern dilemmas about ethics. Their conversation challenges listeners to contemplate the creation of values and the importance of celebrating human experience.
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Quick takeaways

  • Perception is tied to an ethics of aim, where attention is focused on what is deemed important, and the act of perception is nested within a structure that points to the highest ideals.
  • The need for a unified ethical structure in perception and interpretation to reduce the indefinite multiplicity of potential interpretations to self-evident truths.

Deep dives

Hierarchy of Perception and Ethics

The podcast discusses the hierarchy of perception and ethics. The human perception is not a passive recipient of sense data, but an active and conscious act that involves sacrifice and reduction of potential interpretations. Perception is tied to an ethics of aim, where attention is focused on what is deemed important, and the act of perception is nested within a structure that points to the highest ideals. The discussion explores how our perception of the world is influenced by an ethic of aim and the importance of determining what should be at the highest place.

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