In the 12 step community, relapse is viewed as a significant loss and failure not only for the individual but also for the community as a whole. The idea of starting from scratch after any form of substance use is perceived as a daunting setback where the time and progress accumulated in sobriety seem irretrievable. The fear of never regaining the sober time amassed creates a sense of reluctance to even acknowledge the term 'relapse'. The speaker questions if relapse truly signifies a permanent loss and asks for alternative perspectives on whether picking up substances again leads to an irreversible setback in one's recovery journey.

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