Summary

Modern businesses aspire to be data driven, and technologists enjoy working through the challenge of building data systems to support that goal. Data governance is the binding force between these two parts of the organization. Nicola Askham found her way into data governance by accident, and stayed because of the benefit that she was able to provide by serving as a bridge between the technology and business. In this episode she shares the practical steps to implementing a data governance practice in your organization, and the pitfalls to avoid.

Announcements

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• Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Nicola Askham about the practical steps of building out a data governance practice in your organization

Interview

• Introduction
• How did you get involved in the area of data management?
• Can you start by giving an overview of the scope and boundaries of data governance in an organization?
  • At what point does a lack of an explicit governance policy become a liability?
• What are some of the misconceptions that you encounter about data governance?
• What impact has the evolution of data technologies had on the implementation of governance practices? (e.g. number/scale of systems, types of data, AI)
• Data governance can often become an exercise in boiling the ocean. What are the concrete first steps that will increase the success rate of a governance practice?
  • Once a data governance project is underway, what are some of the common roadblocks that might derail progress?
• What are the net benefits to the data team and the organization when a data governance practice is established, active, and healthy?
• What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen data governance applied?
• What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on data governance/training/coaching?
• What are some of the pitfalls in data governance?
• What are some of the future trends in data governance that you are excited by?
  • Are there any trends that concern you?

Contact Info

• Website
• LinkedIn

Parting Question

• From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

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Links

• Website
• Master Data Management
• Cartesian Join
• DAMA == Data Management Community
• DMBOK == Data Management Body of Knowledge
• DAMA DMBOK Wheel
• CDMP (Certified Data Management Professional) Exam
• Data Mesh
• Data Governance First Steps Checklist
• The Never Normal

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