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#177: Chris Hutchins – A master of podcast growth and building relationships.
Creator Science
**Interesting Insight: Up and Comers MASSIVELY outperform big names. **
When collaborating on podcasts, minimize the workload for the other party by suggesting guest swaps or cross promotions rather than focusing solely on download numbers. This approach allows for a more beneficial and organic partnership, where a simple ask can lead to greater exposure for both parties involved.
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