Russia and Germany’s Dependency on One Another

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Russia is the world's second largest energy exporter in terms of oil, number one with natural gas. Especially in germany, it is used as an industrial input. If something happens to that, you're talking about a loss of the world's third largest manufacturing base. The russians and germans have had this weird dance where they have to be each other's largest economic partner, but also their largest strategic rival. So who, quote, wins this time really matters.

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