In this discussion, Peter Zeihan, a geopolitical strategist, and Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group, dissect the implications of deglobalization and demographic decline. They explore how these factors create differing futures for global powers like China and the U.S. The conversation also touches on the war in Ukraine and its impacts, as well as the aging population's challenges. Listeners gain insight into how these trends reshape economic dynamics and geopolitics in an increasingly tumultuous world.
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End of Pax Americana
Post-WWII, America offered naval protection for global commerce in exchange for Cold War support.
This deal fostered globalization but is now ending as the U.S. withdraws and demographics shift.
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Globalization's Uneven Impact
Ian Bremmer believes globalization benefited advanced economies but hollowed out their middle and working classes.
He sees deglobalization as nuanced and constrained, with differing impacts globally.
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Factors Driving Deglobalization
Peter Zeihan notes short-sighted policymaking in the U.S., Europe, and China, coupled with worsening demographic data.
These factors, along with Germany's vulnerability due to Nord Stream's disruption, point towards deglobalization.
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How Three Threats—and Our Response—Will Change the World
Ian Bremmer
In this revelatory, unnerving, and ultimately hopeful book, Ian Bremmer draws lessons from global challenges of the past 100 years to show how we can respond to three great crises unfolding over the next decade. Bremmer discusses global health emergencies, transformative climate change, and the AI revolution, and how these crises can be used to innovate our way toward a better world. He provides a roadmap for surviving—even thriving—in the 21st century by drawing on strategies both time-honored and cutting-edge, from the Marshall Plan to the Green New Deal.
End of the World Is Just the Beginning
Peter Zeihan
Factfulness
Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World – and Why Things Are Better Than You Think
Hans Rosling
Ola Rosling
Anna Rosling Rönnlund
In 'Factfulness,' Hans Rosling, along with his son Ola and daughter-in-law Anna, addresses why people systematically get answers wrong about global trends. They identify ten instincts that distort our perspective, such as dividing the world into 'us' and 'them,' the influence of fear-driven media, and the misconception that most things are getting worse. The book argues that, despite its imperfections, the world is in a better state than many believe and provides a framework to see progress clearly by focusing on facts rather than biases.
Sam Harris speaks with Peter Zeihan and Ian Bremmer about Peter's new book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning. They discuss a wide range of issues related to the deglobalization and demographic collapse, the differing fates of China and America, climate change, the war in Ukraine, and other topics.
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