Making Sense with Sam Harris

#288 — The End of Global Order

Jul 14, 2022

In this discussion, Peter Zeihan, a geopolitical strategist, and Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group, dissect the implications of deglobalization and demographic decline. They explore how these factors create differing futures for global powers like China and the U.S. The conversation also touches on the war in Ukraine and its impacts, as well as the aging population's challenges. Listeners gain insight into how these trends reshape economic dynamics and geopolitics in an increasingly tumultuous world.

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Ian Bremmer

Peter Zeihan

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Russia and Germany’s Dependency on One Another

02:26

Is There a Transition Period?

01:06

The End of the Cold War

01:08

China’s institutional agility.

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Intro

2min

Expanding Horizons: New Features in the Waking Up App

3min

Deglobalization and Demographic Challenges

19min

Geopolitical Turbulence: China and Germany's Economic Challenges

20min

Demographics and Global Dynamics

8min

Demographic Shift and Its Economic Implications in China

3min

Sam Harris speaks with Peter Zeihan and Ian Bremmer about Peter's new book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning. They discuss a wide range of issues related to the deglobalization and demographic collapse, the differing fates of China and America, climate change, the war in Ukraine, and other topics.

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