Your predecessor, richard trumke, opposed a green new deal. Can you talk about that for a minute? It's not really the green new deal as much as the clean energy economy being a future for good paying, sustainable jobs. "I have been out advocating that this clean energy economy runs right through the labor movement"
Organized labor hasn’t had this much public support in 50 years, and yet the percentage of Americans in a union is near a record low. A.F.L-C.I.O. president Liz Shuler tries to explain this gap — and persuade Stephen Dubner that “the folks who brought you the weekend” still have the leverage to fix a broken economy.