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CNLP 627 | John Ortberg Breaks Down the Divide Between Leadership and Spiritual Formation, Why It's Not True That If You're Not a Leader You're a Loser, And His Reflections on Willow Creek and Church Moral Failures

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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Journey to Embrace Personal Wiring as a Three

The speaker reflects on growing up with a contemplative wiring, while also feeling a deep need to be seen as a leader due to being a three on the Enneagram. This desire to be a leader became a strong part of their identity, leading to a long and challenging journey. They eventually realized that their wiring led them to be more energized by conversations with academics rather than those focused on leadership. It was a painful journey to come to terms with this, as they initially believed the only alternative to being a leader was being a loser.

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