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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 627 | John Ortberg Breaks Down the Divide Between Leadership and Spiritual Formation, Why It's Not True That If You're Not a Leader You're a Loser, And His Reflections on Willow Creek and Church Moral Failures

Jan 25, 2024
John Ortberg, a thought leader in leadership and spiritual formation, breaks down the divide between leadership and spiritual formation. They discuss the old adage, 'If you're not a leader, you're a loser' and reflect on moral failures within the church. They explore the relationship between leadership and friendship, the intersection of leadership and spiritual formation, and the challenges of seeking reconciliation in the church. They also discuss forgiveness, repentance, and the fusion of leadership and spiritual formation.
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  • Leadership and spiritual formation are often perceived as separate, but they are both essential and should be integrated in church communities.
  • Forgiveness, rehabilitation, and reconciliation are distinct concepts that need to be understood and applied in the face of scandals or misconduct in church communities.

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The Intersection of Leadership and Spiritual Formation

There is often a perceived separation between leaders who value leadership skills and those who prioritize spiritual formation. This divide can be attributed to different wiring and interests. Leadership is often seen as an outcome-driven field, while spiritual formation focuses on the inner life and personal growth. However, it is important to recognize that everyone is being spiritually formed, whether they are intentional about it or not. Churches play a crucial role in reclaiming the value of leadership and encouraging a deeper understanding of spiritual formation. Great leaders can bring vision, energy, and growth to the church, while also prioritizing personal growth and character development. It is necessary to foster wisdom and actionable ways of life that integrate both organizational leadership and spiritual formation for a thriving church community.

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