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408. Jordan Peterson & Sam Harris Try to Find Something They Agree On

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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JBP to Sam: Moses and the Inappropriate Use of Dogmatism in Religion?

Moses embodies the force that inspires people to speak out against tyranny and recognize their own slavish behavior. He led his people in rebellion against tyrants and is trying to lead them out of slavery, from the desert to the promised land. However, he's punished for using force rather than verbal persuasion to bring forth water from rocks, highlighting the inappropriate use of dogmatism. The objection to religion is seen as an objection to dogmatism, characterized by using tradition for self-benefit without moral effort and attempting to fully comprehend the ineffable. This fundamental dogmatism is seen in totalitarians who claim to possess the final truth. In religion, the concept of dogma is not pejorative, but is considered explicitly good, especially in the Catholic context.

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