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The "Self" Is An Illusion | Thomas Metzinger | Escaped Sapiens #72

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Exploring Consciousness and Suffering in Ethics

Ethical considerations should primarily focus on entities capable of conscious experience and suffering. The extent of suffering among various species, particularly in higher vertebrates and potentially intelligent machines in the future, remains uncertain. Understanding the phenomenology of suffering—including fear, panic, and pain—centers on how consciousness relates to self-identity and attachment. A deeper, evidence-based theory of suffering is essential for applying ethical principles, particularly concerning artificial intelligence and animal welfare. This theory could challenge deeply held beliefs about self and free will, as the fundamental nature of existence reflects a continuous struggle against suffering and inevitable decline. The philosophical exploration of suffering further prompts critical inquiries into our condition and the search for possible solutions to such existential challenges.

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