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Nora Bateson on systems thinking and the meadow crisis

The Wisdom & Action Podcast

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Mutual Learning and Ecological Questioning

The concept of being a 'better person' is ambiguous and subjective, as it depends on different perspectives and versions of life. Instead of focusing on individual improvement, the emphasis should shift to mutual learning and ecological questioning. By asking 'Who can you be when you're with me?' and 'Who can I be when I'm with you?' the focus shifts to creating space for each other and fostering mutual growth. This approach reframes the concept of change to be in the context of mutual learning, moving away from a unilateral approach. The speaker also raises the point that the formation of morality and benevolence should not solely rely on predefined rules or past wisdom, but should also consider the mutual dynamics and feedback in relationships to achieve a positive outcome.

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