Speaker 2
talk about our fates beyond traits. I think this is such a liberating way to look at personality. Because when we first studied personality in your class, my instinct was to say, I am an agreeable, conscientious introvert. Yep. And what you taught me was, no, I didn't choose those traits. I have introversion. I feel pulled toward agreeableness and conscientiousness. But what's much more important than my personality is my principles. And the projects I've often found the most meaning in are the ones in which I transcend my traits to try to be true to my values. And for both of us, I think that's teaching, which requires us to act somewhat extroverted despite being introverts. As an agreeable person, I really like to get along with people. And one of the ways in which I've found myself acting out of character a lot over the past decade in particular is being a good mentor requires me to constantly challenge people. And it requires me to play a more disagreeable role than I might choose for myself. But I care a lot about developing my students, like you do. Also, I think doing whatever this is called, thought leadership, requires me to engage in debates with people who I think are getting the science wrong. And that involves a level of disagreeableness that if I were choosing how I spend every hour of every day, I would not necessarily opt into. And yet I think it's extremely important. What do