

The Co-Living Show
Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork.Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor professional seeking exposure to a sophisticated cash-flow real estate strategy without becoming an operator, this show delivers the confidence, understanding, and insight needed to invest intelligently.Each episode takes you inside the real-world systems behind co-living performance. You’ll hear from operators running multi-market portfolios, attorneys specializing in zoning and compliance, designers who understand space optimization and profitability, lenders financing room-by-room rental strategies, and property managers and city officials shaping the future of affordable housing innovation. You’ll also hear from the Co-Living Cash Flow Community, everyday investors solving operational challenges and executing the exact frameworks discussed on the show. 👉 Join the community: www.millermcswain.com/communityThere is no fluff here. No hype. No motivational noise. Every conversation is grounded in data, regulatory insight, operational logic, and investor-level clarity. Co-living is not “passive income.” It’s not a shortcut. It’s a system. And systems — when executed correctly — produce scalable, predictable returns that outperform traditional rental models. This is not speculative theory. It’s cash-flow real estate strategy in action.Craig brings acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy. Miller brings operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks that make coliving scalable. Together, they deliver an operator’s perspective of an asset class most investors only see from the outside. As BiggerPockets authors, educators, and practitioners, they simplify complexity without diluting truth: coliving works, but only when done correctly.You’ll hear underwriting breakdowns, operator case studies, deal teardowns, regulatory realities, tenant strategy, market analysis, and the economic logic behind high-density residential investing. You’ll learn how to invest passively, partner with experienced operators, or simply understand the business model in depth, even if you never plan to manage a property yourself.The Co-Living Show does not claim co-living works. It proves when, why, and under what conditions it works.If you want confidence instead of conjecture, systems instead of speculation, and clarity instead of chaos, this is your source of truth for professional-grade residential real estate investing.Subscribe and join thousands of investors building deeper understanding, stronger portfolios, and smarter strategies, without wasting time on noise.This is the future of residential real estate investing. And now you’ll finally understand how it works.
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Mar 2, 2022 • 47min
Episode 74 - Breaking Debt Chains: Money Fear And Financial Independence With Ron Schneider
Those rags to riches stories can sometimes sound too good to be true. Can people go massively bankrupt to incredibly debt-free in one lifetime? Ron Schneider is living proof that you can achieve financial independence. He has gone from $60K in debt in 2006 to a net worth north of $2 million in the past 15 years. Ron joins Zeona McIntyre to talk about the things from his childhood that hindered him from paying off his debts. Tune in and learn how Ron used reduced spending, index funds, credit card hacking, and other techniques to supercharge his savings rate. Check this out: You can go to www.rentredi.com and use our CODE: INVEST2FI to get 50% off on your first six months.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Feb 23, 2022 • 55min
Episode 73 - Secret To Success? Give Before You Receive With Taylor Doolittle
How do you achieve massive success? Give before you receive. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre welcome Taylor Doolittle, a passionate realtor in the greater areas of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Together with Team Steady, Taylor has been able to sell 678 properties. The essential piece is to bring value to your potential clients for free. When you help walk them through the purchasing process, they will buy properties from you. Creating educational content is an excellent way to bring value. If you want to learn more, listen to this episode. Check This Out: You can go to www.rentredi.com and use our CODE: INVEST2FI to get 50% off on their first 6 months.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Feb 16, 2022 • 45min
Episode 72 - Getting Off Corporate America’s Rat Race: House Hacking And Financial Freedom With Nieves Soto
Budding investor Nieves Soto started her house hacking journey towards financial freedom recently. With a deal behind her, what's next down the road? Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre take a look at Nieves and her investment so far. We hear, in her own words, how she found a property and how she secured a deal. Nieves also shares how she got her start in investing and how she went debt free. Get in on the action and learn from Nieves and her path towards freedom.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Feb 9, 2022 • 50min
Episode 71 - House Hacking, The BRRRR Method, and More Ways to Achieve Financial Independence In Real Estate With Colin McAlpine
Need help with your expenses while getting started on your real estate journey? How does house hacking sound? In this episode, guest Colin McAlpine shares how he got into real estate as a means to achieve financial freedom. After a decade in corporate finance, Colin realized that the income he got from the time and effort he put into his work no longer seemed worth it. Today, he chats with Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre on how he figured out minimizing or eliminating time from the income equation altogether. With a start in house hacking to now closing long-distance deals, tune in as Craig shares how you, too, can emulate his success with helpful, practical tips.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Feb 2, 2022 • 35min
Episode 70 - Note Investing Your Way To Financial Freedom With Martin Saenz
Finding new ways to achieve your financial independence? Note investing could be the thing for you! Joining Zeona McIntyre is Martin Saenz, Managing Partner of BeQuest Funds and renowned thought leader in the mortgage note investment industry. After trying his hand at real estate and other investments, he claims that note investing was the one that hit the mark for his financial goals. Martin shares his journey from leaving corporate America to his family not having to worry about money in the last ten years. Financial freedom is a destination with a lot of paths. Listen in on their chat and find out if note investing is the right investment for you!Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Jan 26, 2022 • 56min
Episode 69 - An Inside Look Into Airbnb Investing With Rocco Montana
From a secluded beach house to an apartment in the heart of a city, Airbnb offers unique getaways for thousands and thousands of people. Shouldn’t you start thinking about investing in Airbnb then? Airbnb investing gives you so much freedom, both financially and time-wise. Learn more about investing in Airbnb, getting licensed, and more in today's episode as Zeona McIntyre talks one-on-one with her former mentor, Rocco Montana. Rocco is a longtime real estate investor and the co-founder of JROC Properties. Listen to his real estate stories - from his first deals to his biggest mistakes – and learn to never give up when you fail. Remember, you're only a failure when you quit.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Jan 19, 2022 • 49min
Episode 68 - Young Money: Being Financially Independent At 22 With Chandler Saine
Does experience always equate to success? Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre welcomes young entrepreneur, Chandler Saine, to talk about how he managed to be financially independent at 22. Chandler shares how seeing his dad venture into business and have more time for their family drove him to follow the same footsteps. Craig, Zeona, and Chandler also discuss the values they consider critical for a person to thrive in the business sector. Listen in as Chandler puts emphasis on his life struggles and how these gave him fuel to build his own name.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Jan 12, 2022 • 49min
Episode 67 - Cracking The Code Of Financial Independence Through Real Estate: An Interview With Christopher Loo
There are many paths towards financial freedom, but one sure-fire way remains consistent, and that is the path of real estate. Whether through active investing or through passive means, real estate is here to stay. In this episode, Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre discuss walking the path of financial independence with Christopher Loo, a financial coach, entrepreneur and doctor. Christopher talks about how he discovered real estate and his journey towards freedom, as well as what’s in store for the future. Learn more about becoming financially independent by tuning in today.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Jan 5, 2022 • 56min
Episode 66 - Dan Haberkost On Addressing Landlord Mistakes The Right Way
When it comes to acquiring properties, we turn to realtors and property managers for help. But no one is safe from all kinds of landlord mistakes, and sometimes you end up getting help from unreliable people. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre are joined by Dan Haberkost, who looks back on his messy first deal, the lessons he learned from them, and how they propelled him to much better transactions in Colorado Springs. He talks about his tactics in finding the right tenants by keeping friendly relationships and following a strict screening process. Dan also shares his land development business by discussing his most effective furnishing strategies.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com

Dec 29, 2021 • 60min
Episode 65 - How To Get The Confidence You Need To Succeed With Bradley LaBrie
How do you get the confidence you need to succeed? By listening to the right people. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre present Bradley LaBrie, the co-host of the House Hacking Success Podcast. In this episode, Bradley shares how he house hacked his way to success in the real estate industry. But his journey was filled with challenges and strange experiences along the way. What made him push through? Podcasts, books, and relationships that gave him the boost he needed to make it. Listen to the conversation and get the confidence you need. Tune in!Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! invest2fi.com


