

That UFO Podcast
That UFO Podcast
Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
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Aug 15, 2025 • 60min
UFO News Update: Luna on Rogan, Elizondo/SCIF controversy & Loeb on 'Alien' threat
The latest discussions dive into Representative Anna Paulina Luna's intriguing remarks on the Joe Rogan show, where she shares military insights and claims about interdimensional beings. Tensions rise with the Elizondo-Luna controversy regarding canceled briefings. Theories from Avi Loeb about an alien probe near Earth stir excitement, alongside updates on the Nazca mummies and listener interactions. The host navigates the complexities of UFO disclosure, emphasizing the blend of human nature and cosmic mysteries.

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Aug 11, 2025 • 60min
(Pt.2) The UFO Secrecy Playbook – It’s Been Used Before: Chris Lehto
Chris Lehto, a retired F-16 pilot, delves into the current landscape of UFO disclosure and the vital role of whistleblowers. He discusses the significant impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony and the frustration brewing in the UFO community. The conversation highlights the stigma surrounding UAP reporting among pilots and critiques the decline of journalism in this field. Lehto also shares transformative insights on ontological shock and explores humanity's place in the universe, questioning traditional beliefs and the implications of non-human intelligence.

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Aug 8, 2025 • 1h 14min
(Pt.1) Secrets, Stigma, and Sightings: Chris Lehto on the UFO Battlefield
Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto, who also hosts The Late Files YouTube channel, provides a captivating perspective on UFO phenomena. He discusses the current state of UFO disclosure and the challenges faced by whistleblowers. Chris analyzes Cmdr. Fravor's testimony and the shifting stigma surrounding pilot reports of UAPs. He shares thoughts on the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives shaping public perception, and hints at what true disclosure could entail, including reflections on ancient technology and the universe.

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Aug 6, 2025 • 58min
Exploring Crop Circles and UFO Phenomena: An Interview with Karen Alexander
Karen Alexander, a seasoned crop circle researcher with over 30 years in the field, shares her insights on the captivating world of crop circles. She discusses the true nature of these formations, whether they convey messages or remain a mystery. The conversation dives into AI's potential to decode patterns, the historical significance of notable formations like the Crabwood alien circle, and the intriguing connection between crop circles and human consciousness. With guidelines for respectful visits, Karen encourages new enthusiasts to explore this enigmatic phenomenon.

Aug 4, 2025 • 45min
From Thought to Reality: Are UAPs Manifesting? w/James Hodgkins
Join James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets, as he shares captivating insights from his experiences with consciousness and UFOs. He discusses the intricate challenges faced by whistleblowers in the UFO community and the importance of ethical transparency in their testimonies. Hodgkins also recounts his unpredictable encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, exploring the role of intention and psychic abilities. He raises thought-provoking questions about communication with non-human intelligences and the ethical dilemmas in commercial UAP research.

Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 23min
Exploring Psionic Phenomena & UFOs: An In-Depth Conversation with James Hodgkins
James Hodgkins, a psionic asset with Skywatchers, discusses his intriguing journey into the realms of consciousness and UFOs. He shares personal encounters that bridge psychic phenomena and extraterrestrial experiences, highlighting how family openness shaped his fascination. The conversation delves into the operational challenges faced by psionic teams, methods to establish contact with non-human entities, and the ethical dimensions of these practices. Hodgkins also reflects on reality's complexity and the evolving public understanding of UFOs.

Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 44min
Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward
Ivan Hannel, a lawyer known for his advocacy in UFO disclosure and his work with Luis Elizondo, dives deep into the intricacies of government transparency. He discusses the pivotal New York Times article that changed public perception and shares legal insights on congressional briefings. Key topics include potential new whistleblowers, the complications surrounding the UAP Disclosure Act, and the need for accountability in the UFO community. Hannel emphasizes the importance of critical evaluation and honest communication as the journey towards disclosure continues.

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Jul 25, 2025 • 18min
UFO Black Sites Named, New Evidence Coming Soon & More
Discover exciting insights as the host dives into recent revelations from notable UFO researchers. Locations of UFO black sites are unveiled, while new evidence suggests a deeper connection to non-human technology. A fascinating interview explores the spiritual aspects of UFO encounters, blending consciousness with extraterrestrial themes. The conversation also touches on the inclusion of skeptics in UFO discussions and personal experiences from the Undersecretary of the Air Force. Plus, get the scoop on upcoming guests and a new coffee table book!

Jul 22, 2025 • 59min
Breakdown: 'Sphere' & Loathing, Conciousness & Breakaway Civilisations
Dive into the fascinating discussion surrounding the Buga sphere controversy and the dividing opinions within the UFO community. Enjoy an exploration of Tic-Tac UFOs, where the line blurs between human technology and alien craft. Delve into the complexities of consciousness and reality, sparking philosophical debates. Uncover the challenges of UFO disclosure and what it means for future space exploration. Plus, ponder who you'd invite to an ultimate UFO dinner party and engage in lighthearted banter about wrestling personalities!

Jul 19, 2025 • 1h 11min
Breakdown: UFO Hearings Delayed – Science, Signals & Secrets (Pt. 1)
Listen in as the hosts delve into the latest delays and expectations surrounding upcoming UFO hearings. They explore Garry Nolan's skeptical insights and the role of electromagnetic signals in UAPs. Perspectives from firsthand witnesses highlight challenges and potential whistleblower safety concerns. The discussion touches on governmental secrecy, DMT research, and the implications of eminent domain related to extraterrestrial technology. Get ready for a captivating mix of science, history, and speculation in the ever-evolving world of UFO phenomena.


