That UFO Podcast

Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward

Jul 31, 2025
Ivan Hannel, a lawyer known for his advocacy in UFO disclosure and his work with Luis Elizondo, dives deep into the intricacies of government transparency. He discusses the pivotal New York Times article that changed public perception and shares legal insights on congressional briefings. Key topics include potential new whistleblowers, the complications surrounding the UAP Disclosure Act, and the need for accountability in the UFO community. Hannel emphasizes the importance of critical evaluation and honest communication as the journey towards disclosure continues.
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ANECDOTE

Ivan Hannel's UFO Journey

  • Ivan Hannel's interest in UFOs grew from personal experience and curiosity after the 2017 New York Times article.
  • He met Luis "Lue" Elizondo over a year ago and began professionally assisting him with a broad range of legal issues.
INSIGHT

Facing Stigma in UFO Law

  • Despite stigma, Ivan embraced the UFO topic openly as a competent lawyer.
  • He sees decreasing stigma due to advancing technology and believes society should face fearful topics honestly.
ANECDOTE

Elizondo's Congress Briefing Photo

  • At the 2023 Congressional briefing, Elizondo presented a misleading photo of irrigation circles, causing confusion.
  • Ivan explains Elizondo's exhaustion led to poor wording, but intent was to stress need for better photo resolving.
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