

That UFO Podcast
That UFO Podcast
Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
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Oct 28, 2026 • 1h 11min
The Tedesco Brothers: UFO Encounters, the Hitchhiker Effect & the FBI
John Tedesco, a UAP researcher and engineer, runs the Nightcrawler mobile laboratory with his brother Gerry. They discuss luminous Atlantic spheres, advanced multispectral and radar systems, offshore expeditions, and reports of bedroom orbs and shadowy hitchhiker effects. They also examine Nightcrawler’s expanding FBI relationship, Skywatcher’s secrecy, government redactions, and the need for independent audits in UAP research.

Oct 26, 2026 • 2h 13min
Jake Barber: Burlison’s Next Move in UFO Disclosure?
Could Jake Barber become Eric Burlison’s next ally in Congress’s UFO investigation? This discussion examines David Grusch’s departure, Skywatcher’s secretive role, missing crash footage and government redactions. It also explores Diana Pasulka’s critique of Jay Stratton’s book, possible post-midterm disclosure shifts, and the credibility of recurring whistleblower claims, channeling, and UFO lore.

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Oct 23, 2026 • 33min
PURSUE Release 7: AARO’s Black Triangle Case & the BAASS Files
A first reaction to PURSUE Release 7 explores AARO’s black triangle case near a sensitive site and more than 1,100 pages of Bigelow Aerospace documents. The discussion covers alleged recovered materials, underground storage plans, contact experiments at Skinwalker Ranch, Project Capella’s unified database, nuclear-site reports, and a NASA cover-story memo, while questioning the lack of video evidence.

Oct 22, 2026 • 1h 33min
Chris Ramsay Returns: UFO Crashes, Disclosure Fatigue & Secret Technology
Chris Ramsay, a former magician and researcher who runs Area 52, returns for a wide-ranging look at UFO crash retrievals and disclosure fatigue. He examines David Grusch, Jay Stratton, the Aztec crash site, Project Serpo, underwater craft, and Chris Bledsoe’s institute. The conversation also explores whether secret human technology could appear alien, including a startling claim about AI predicting enemy movements.

Oct 20, 2026 • 2h 8min
The White House vs UFO Gatekeepers: Who Controls the Evidence?
Could the White House be pursuing UAP evidence outside established channels? The discussion explores alleged operations at White Sands, Jake Barber and Skywatcher claims, hidden legacy programs, and Jay Stratton’s assertions about recovered craft. It also examines why scientists lack usable data, Dr. Phil’s access to dramatic footage, and allegations of secret societies influencing the UFO community.

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Oct 16, 2026 • 59min
UFO Cover-Up Claims & Pentagon Fallout, with Ben Schreckinger
Ben Schreckinger, an investigative journalist and founder of Paradigm, examines the explosive clash between Jay Stratton and Sean Kirkpatrick over alleged UFO legacy programs. He discusses Donald Trump’s uncertain disclosure strategy, the hunt for crash-retrieval evidence, conflicting accounts involving John Herrington, and why telepathy has entered his investigations. Expect skepticism, bureaucratic intrigue, and fresh leads in UFO reporting.

Oct 16, 2026 • 2h 8min
12 UFOs at Lockheed? Unpacking Jay Stratton’s Claims
A deep dive into Jay Stratton’s claims of twelve recovered craft at Lockheed, successful reverse engineering, recovered beings, and a hidden legacy program. The discussion explores his clashes with Avi Loeb, Sean Kirkpatrick, David Grusch, and Lue Elizondo, plus allegations of manufactured whistleblowers, media manipulation, and unanswered questions surrounding his personal encounters.

Oct 15, 2026 • 59min
Jay Stratton: Out of the Shadows | Review & Listener Reactions
A spoiler-filled review of Jay Stratton’s account, from alleged recovered craft and a non-human encounter to Skinwalker Ranch, Holloman and nuclear-linked UAP activity. The discussion examines Stratton’s government background, Hal Puthoff’s endorsement, claims involving Elizondo and Grusch, criticism of Kirkpatrick, disputed evidence and listener reactions.

Oct 13, 2026 • 2h 11min
UFO Arms Race, Eric Weinstein & Jay Stratton’s Book Preview
Claims of a UFO arms race spark debate over US-China competition, lunar infrastructure, helium-3 and advanced propulsion. The discussion revisits mysterious drone incursions, Eric Weinstein’s theories and Matthew Livelsberger’s manifesto. Jay Stratton’s book preview explores military UAP encounters, alleged legacy-program threats and questions surrounding crash retrievals, while listener topics include reverse engineering and abduction cases.

Oct 9, 2026 • 1h 39min
Lenval Logan: “We’ve Seen Better” | Grusch, UAP Footage & The Phenom App
Lenval Logan, a retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst and former UAP Task Force member, discusses David Grusch, classified footage, strange underwater objects, and a deeply personal encounter with a blue figure. Matt Stevens, a former Apple software specialist, introduces Phenom, a citizen-science app built to preserve metadata, verify sightings, and protect evidence in the age of AI-generated video.


