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Jun 13, 2022 • 1h 21min
Ep 56 | UTOKing with Scott Jordan | Toward a Coherent Vision of Nature and Meaning
In Episode 56, Gregg welcomes Scott Jordan. Scott is currently the Chair of the Department of Psychology at Illinois State University in Normal, Illinois where he is also Director of the Institute for Prospective Cognition. In this episode, he recounts his theoretical work in Wild Systems Theory and how it moves scientific psychology toward an integrated framework that conceptualizes organisms as embodiments of the phylogenetic, cultural, social, and developmental contexts from they emerged and in which they sustain themselves. He and Gregg sync this up with UTOK’s vision and explore what a coherentist approach to nature, consciousness, and meaning looks like in the 21st Century.
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Sceptical Idealist: Michael Oakeshott as a Critic of the Enlightenment by Roy Tseng: https://www.amazon.com/Sceptical-Idealist-Michael-Oakeshott-Enlightenment/dp/0907845223
Consilience by E. O. Wilson: https://www.amazon.com/Consilience-Knowledge-Edward-Osborne-Wilson/dp/067976867X
Princess Mononoke (written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/
Dark Loops Production YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN5ddGv-AuqOj7iwdBxt_eQ
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Dark Loops Productions: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN5ddGv-AuqOj7iwdBxt_eQ
Scott’s University Homepage: https://about.illinoisstate.edu/jsjorda/
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Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx

Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 41min
Ep 55 | UTOKing with Tyler Volk | Syncing Up Maps of Big History
In Episode 55, Gregg welcomes Tyler Volk. Tyler is Professor Emeritus of Biology and Environmental Studies at New York University. He is the author of several books, including *Metapatterns Across Space, Time, and Mind*, and *From Quarks to Culture: How We Came to Be*. Across his professional life, he has developed a big picture view of the cosmos called "combogenesis" which maps 12 levels of complexity into three realms. In this episode, he and Gregg sync up this map with UTOK's Tree of Knowledge System, with the result being a clear synergy and a hopeful advance for how we might correspond the various Big History maps into a coherent integrated pluralism.
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Metapatterns, Across Space, Time, and Mind by Tyler Volk:* https://www.amazon.com/Metapatterns-Tyler-Volk/dp/023106750X
From Quarks to Culture: How We Came to Be by Tyler Volk:* https://www.amazon.com/Quarks-Culture-How-We-Came/dp/023117960X
The Design Way by Harold G. Nelson and Erik Stolterman:* https://www.amazon.com/Design-Way-Intentional-Change-Unpredictable/dp/0262018179
The Major Transitions in Evolution by John Maynard Smith:* https://www.amazon.com/Major-Transitions-Evolution-Maynard-Smith/dp/019850294X
The Evolution of the Sensitive Soul: Learning and the Origins of Consciousness by Jablonka & Ginsburg:* https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Sensitive-Soul-Learning-Consciousness/dp/0262039303
Becoming Human: A Theory of Ontogeny by Michael Tomasello:* https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Human-Ontogeny-Michael-Tomasello/dp/0674248287/ref=sr_1_1?crid=12NTMU47TAOYB&keywords=becoming+human+michael+tomasello&qid=1654533941&sprefix=becoming+human+michael+tomasello%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1
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Homepage: https://tylervolk.wikidot.com/home:home
Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=2mkaUvkAAAAJ&hl=en
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCna248p-iI8EnE2QUbv001g
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Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
- - - 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 - - -
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

May 30, 2022 • 1h 25min
Ep 54 | UTOKing with Stephen Bacon | Psychotherapy as Constructing Reality
In Episode 54, Gregg welcomes Stephen Bacon. Stephen a theorist, author, educator, and clinical psychologist. He is the author of Practicing Psychotherapy in Constructed Reality: Ritual, Charisma, and Enhanced Client Outcomes, which makes the argument that psychotherapy fundamentally is about a relational process whereby individuals reconstruct their narrative about health and healing and that the field's techniques and specific interventions for diagnosed problems have little to no inherent power. In this episode, he and Gregg review this powerful argument and explore its implications.
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Practicing Psychotherapy in Constructed Reality: Ritual, Charisma, and Enhanced Client Outcomes by Stephen Bacon: https://www.drstephenbacon.com/?page_id=22
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Homepage: https://www.drstephenbacon.com/
Stephen’s YouTube Channal: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3uYv2Wqo5pluLHE9nMIiXA
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Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
- - - 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 - - -
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

May 23, 2022 • 1h 44min
Ep 53 | UTOKing with John Stewart | An Evolutionary Manifesto
In Episode 53, Gregg welcomes John Stewart. John is an Australian-based evolutionary theorist and a core member of the Evolution, Complexity and Cognition Research Group of the Free University of Brussels. He is the author of Evolution’s Arrow: The Direction of Evolution and the Future of Humanity, and has developed The Evolutionary Manifesto, which proposes the needed emergence of "intentional evolutionaries" who are people who see the emergent processes of greater cooperation and evolvability and recognize the need for a global movement in this direction. In this podcast, he narrates his vision with Gregg, and they discuss the overlap and difference with UTOK.
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John in Dialogue with John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NUb2HaElhA
Teilhard de Chardin’s bibliography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin#Bibliography
The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Ape
Evolution’s Arrow: The Direction of Evolution and the Future of Humanity by John Stewart https://books.google.com.br/books/about/Evolution_s_Arrow.html?id=7F4lXeLTeOgC&redir_esc=y
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Evolution's Arrow: the direction of evolution and the future of humanity: ****https://www.amazon.com/Evolutions-Arrow-direction-evolution-humanity/dp/0646394975
The Evolutionary Manifesto: http://www.evolutionarymanifesto.com/man.pdf
Academic Homepage: https://philpeople.org/profiles/john-e-stewart#:~:text=John Stewart is an Australian,on the trajectory of evolution.
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Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
- - - 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 - - -
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

May 9, 2022 • 1h 36min
Ep 52 | UTOKing with Bruce Alderman | Reflections on Transpersonal Psychology
In Episode 52, Gregg welcomes back Bruce Alderman. Bruce is a philosopher and spiritual seeker who has deep knowledge of many Eastern traditions and Integral Theory, and he cohosts the Integral Stage with Layman. In this episode, Bruce shares with Gregg his perspective on psychology and psychotherapy. In particular, he emphasizes how his training in Ken Wilber's Integral theory and the transpersonal movement more generally aligned with his spiritual teachings and experiences to give him a perspective on "spiritual emergencies" that most mainstream approaches to psychotherapy are silent about.
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Integral Psychotherapy (Ep. 6: The UTOK’s DSM, with Dr. Gregg Henriques) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQAc0jZCLMM
Metamodern Spirituality | Integral Pluralism and Meta-Religion (w/ Bruce Alderman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ePhJTozgY&list=PLa_4sU5_wQrlw5b9oc1tDaziHyEqXUnl7&index=16
“10 Problems With Consciousness” –by Gregg Henriques – Psychology Today blog - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/201812/10-problems-consciousness
“The 11th Problem of Consciousness – Part I” by Gregg Henriques and John Vervaeke – Psychology Today blog - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/202001/the-11th-problem-consciousness
“The 11th Problem of Consciousness – Part II” by Gregg Henriques and John Vervaeke – Psychology Today blog - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/202002/the-11th-problem-consciousness
“Awakening from the Meaning Crisis” – John Vervaeke - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
“Integral Psychology: Consciousness, Spirit, Psychology, Therapy” – book by Ken Wilber - https://www.shambhala.com/integral-psychology-816.html
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bruce.alderman.14
Bruce on his work on Integral Grammatology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WvnbrKe_aU
previous UTOKing episodes with Bruce:
Ep 3 | UTOKing with Bruce Alderman | Toward a Sacred Naturalism: https://youtu.be/cIhpQPeRdOg
Ep 28 | UTOKing with Gregg | iQuad Coin Edition | with Bruce Alderman Part 1: https://youtu.be/sH3CMgRI5xo
Ep 29 | UTOKing with Gregg | iQuad Coin Edition | with Bruce Alderman Part 2: https://youtu.be/qo9eym_m-z4
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Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
- - - 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 - - -
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:16 Bruce’s background and approach to psychology
00:06:18 Bruce describes transpersonal psychology
00:12:25 Links between transpersonal psychology, UTOK, and John Vervaeke
00:14:48 Historical antecedents of transpersonal psychology
00:20:59 Bruce talks about Wilber and integration efforts within transpersonal psychology
00:24:42 Gregg summarizes Wilber’s approach to transpersonal psychology and links it to UTOK
00:26:42 The proper relationship between integral theory and transpersonal psychology
00:28:19 Bruce on teaching transpersonal psychology
00:30:51 Gregg on his personal experience of transpersonal growth
00:35:16 Bruce links a transpersonal view to everyday psychological functioning
00:46:20 Connections between Bruce’s approach to transpersonal psychology and UTOK
00:53:53 On applying integral and transpersonal psychology
01:07:38 Active intervention in the application of integral psychology
01:13:08 The prepersonal, personality disorders, and the DSM
01:17:28 Spiritual emergency

Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 23min
Ep 51 | UTOKing with Nicholas Lattanzio | Nondual Empiricism
In Episode 49, Gregg welcomes Nicholas Lattanzio. He is a psychologist with long standing interests in integral theory and Eastern philosophical traditions. A TOK Society member, he advocates for a "nondual empirical" position that he uses to bridge psychotherapy, philosophy and being in the world. He has interests and areas of expertise comprising existential/spiritual crises, anxiety disorders, substance use disorders, personality disorders, psychosis, self-harm, trauma, ADHD, depressive and mood disorders, dissociative disorders, and issues related to identity at various stages of development In this episode, he shares with Gregg his thinking and how nondual empiricism relates to UTOK.
-- ℹ️ Find out more about Nicholas ℹ️ ---
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-lattanzio-085757190/
-- ℹ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ ---
Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriquesphd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
-- 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 ---
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

Apr 19, 2022 • 1h 31min
Ep 50 | UTOKing with Brendan Graham Dempsey | Toward a Metamodern Spiritual Awakening
In Episode 50, Gregg welcomes Brendan Graham Dempsey. Brendan is a writer whose work focuses on the meaning crisis and the nature of spirituality in metamodernity (see here). He is also the host of the Metamodern Spirituality podcast, in which he interviews prominent voices on metamodernism and contemporary spirituality. In this episode, he recounts for Gregg his journey, and he and Gregg explore the metamodern spirituality movement, and why the time is right for knowledge systems that can generate a coherent integrative pluralism in a way oriented toward wisdom.
--- ℹ️ Find out more about Brendan Graham Dempsey ℹ️ ---
Homepage: https://www.brendangrahamdempsey.com/
Metamodern Spirituality Homepage: https://www.metamodernspirituality.org/about
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendanGrahamDempsey
--- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ ---
Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
--- 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 --- Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 33min
Ep 49 | UTOKing with James Schofield | Toward an Adequate Philosophy of Being
Episode 49, Gregg welcomes James Schofield. He is a "generalist philosopher," professor, and author of A Phenomenological Revision of E.E. Harris's Dialectical Holism, which aims to synthesize 4E cognitive science and Bohm's philosophy of physics into a common metaphysical system that provides a solution to the hard problem of consciousness. He has twice been on Voices with Vervaeke (find the links below). In this episode, he shares with Gregg his journey and the basic outline of what an adequate philosophy for consciousness looks like and how James' frame syncs up with UTOK.
--- ℹ️ Find out more about James Schofield ℹ️ ---
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-schofield-79b306178/
Meaning - Cognitive Science meets Existentialism w/ James Schofield -Voices with Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4BmfOSZOZQ&t=537s
James Schofield and Dialectical Holism - The Cognitive Science Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0C02mium6c
--- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ ---
Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
--- 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 ---
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

Feb 28, 2022 • 1h 40min
Ep 48 | UTOKing with Rachel Hayden | Gender and Embodied, Transformational Living Through UTOK
In Episode 48, Gregg welcomes Rachel Hayden. Rachel is a leader in the Peer-to-Peer community and is working to translate metamodern and Game B ideas into real world practices. She also has recently transitioned and has developed a Socratic aspirational framework on transformation that incorporates the work of L.A. Paul on transformative experience and the work of Agnes Callard on aspiration, provides a better model. In this episode, she and Gregg explore gender, the current state of the world, and the kind of transformative practices that are needed and the ways UTOK might be able to provide a necessary conceptual framework.
--- Find out more about Gregg Henriques ---
Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
--- The Unified Theory of Knowledge ---
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 43min
Ep 47 | UTOKing with Raven Connolly | Reflections on Sex, Gender, and Death
In Episode 47, Gregg welcomes Raven Connolly. She is an independent "philosopher queen" who travels in a mosaic of intellectual milieus, ranging from Justin Murphy’s IndieThinkers to Peter Limberg’s The Stoa. She hosts and interviews guests at The Stoa, and is currently developing a philosophy of the ovum, secrecy, and marriage. In this episode, she shares with Gregg her reflections on sex, gender, and death. They explore how her more intuitive exploratory sense of this time between worlds aligns with UTOK's more formal theoretical architecture and together they align in noting the important symbiosis between the perspectives, and the episode affords some especially useful reflections on sex and gender dynamics.
--- ℹ️ Find out more about Raven Connolly ℹ️ ---
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/raven.connolly.71
Twitter: https://twitter.com/spiral_virus
--- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ ---
Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd
Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx
--- 🌳 The Unified Theory of Knowledge 🌳 ---
Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/
Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system
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