
The Integral Stage
At THE INTEGRAL STAGE, we provide a platform to explore emergent integral perspectives, host innovative thinkers, communicators, and creators from around the world, and reflect the larger integrative meta-community back to itself in all its forms.
Additional Audio Podcasts:
Integral Stage Sexuality Series
Integral Stage Metapodcast
Integral Stage Author Series
The Integral Stage is
BRUCE ALDERMAN - Creator, Producer, and Occasional Host
LAYMAN PASCAL - Interviewer, Co-Conspirator, and Digital Shaman
Latest episodes

Dec 27, 2021 • 1h 27min
NEW EDUCATION: Pathways for "Game B" Education w/ Jim Rutt
In this episode of new Education Systems, Layman Pascal talks to Jim Rutt about potential pathways to Game B models of education. Jim Rutt is the former CEO of Network Solutions. The New York Times once referred to him as “the Internet’s bad boy” due to his reputation for creative mischief. He sold Network Solutions at the peak of the Dot Com boom and then went into scientific research. Jim has been affiliated with the Santa Fe Institute since 2002, serving as Chairman from 2009 thru 2012. Currently he runs the Jim Rutt Show podcast, and is the gun-totin' godfather of the Game B movement. Links and Resources
Jim Rutt Show Podcast https://www.jimruttshow.com/
What is Game B video https://youtu.be/HL5bcgpprxY
The Story of Game B video https://youtu.be/Glgcl9AVWbA

Nov 18, 2021 • 1h 19min
NEW EDUCATION: The Global Center for Advanced Studies w/ Creston Davis
Creston Davis, Ph.D., is the founder and director of the Global Center for Advanced Studies and Chancellor of GCAS College Dublin. He discusses the innovative, blockchain-modeled education system designed to alleviate student debt and enhance faculty well-being. The conversation highlights the need for decentralized, cooperative educational structures and the importance of promoting critical thought. Davis contrasts knowledge and wisdom, emphasizing the role of mindfulness and community in cultivating true learning, while also touching on the challenges faced in today's academic landscape.

Nov 13, 2021 • 2h 4min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Toward a Deeper Conservatism w/ Rich Tafel
Layman is joined by Rich Tafel, a conservative, gay, integrally informed and mystically inclined Swedenborgian pastor and Washington political operative, to talk about communitarian conservatism, the pragmatic dimensions of post-postmodern political change, the spiritual dimension of the American zeitgeist, the opportunities for a hybrid of healthy progressive and conservative values that just might be able to grow beyond the deadlock of polarized and stagnant modernity, and much more.
Rich Tafel is a transformative leader in the areas of faith, politics and social impact. As the Managing Director of Raffa Social Capital Advisors he matches impact investors to vetted social ventures. Partnering with investors his team provides back office support, public policy and strategic coaching to social ventures. Rich is also the Director of the American Project a new Democracy Fund supported effort to bring together leading thinkers to imagine new solutions to America’s broken political system. The project is housed at Pepperdine School of Public Policy. Tafel is also pastor of Church of the Holy City in Washington DC, where he is launching a spiritual entrepreneur hub. Tafel is the founder of Log Cabin Republicans. Before moving to Washington DC, Tafel was Adolescent Health Director for the State of MA and served as Assistant Minister at Harvard’s Chapel.
Professional website https://www.richtafel.us/
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Oct 17, 2021 • 1h 56min
PHILOSOPHICAL CURRENTS: Reading Wilber's "Excerpt A: An Integral Age at the Leading Edge"
In the early 2000s, Ken Wilber began to publish excerpts from his long-awaited follow-up to Sex, Ecology, Spirituality, tentatively titled "Kosmic Karma and Creativity" or "Sex, Karma, Creativity." In it he was no longer writing, as he said, for the general public; he was writing for serious students of his vision. That version of a promised second volume of the Kosmos Trilogy never appeared, however, and the excerpts (A, B, C, D, and G) have remained our only tantalizing glimpse of what promised to be a postmetaphysical tour de force. In their new Integral Stage series, Reading the Kosmos Trilogy Excerpts, Bruce and Layman will take a deep dive into these five thought-provoking and in many ways revolutionary documents, not only to give them some overdue attention and engagement, but to highlight them also for their prescience and relevance to many of the issues and challenges we confront in the third decade of the 21st Century.
We start with Excerpt A: An Integral Age at the Leading Edge, which discusses an emerging integrative tipping point in the culture across multiple fields; a reading of the relational and causal dynamics of the four quadrants through the lenses of Whitehead's prehensive unification and Sheldrake's morphic resonance; revolutionary integral pluralism and an AQAL reframing of Marx; the dialectic of facts and interpretations; and the promise of integral methodological pluralism for promoting transdisciplinarity and deepening holistic vision and practice.
A: AN INTEGRAL AGE AT THE LEADING EDGE
Excerpt A: An Integral Age at the Leading Edge (kenwilber.com)
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Sep 28, 2021 • 1h 34min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: The Politics of Planetary Eros w/ Marc Gafni
For episode 10 of the LOVE THE SYSTEM series, Layman is joined by Dr. Marc Gafni, the co-founder of the Center for Integral Wisdom and the author of multiple books and essays on integrative spirituality and spiritual activism. Marc presents his vision of what a planetary politics could and should be, and together they explore the question of AI and the enormous challenges manipulative algorithms pose not only to informed voting, but to sensemaking in general; the emergence of techno-feudalism; the problems with voting protocols rooted in rivalrous dynamics, and the possibilities for liquid democracy or a synergistic democracy; the viability and role of nation states in a globally interconnected and interdependent society; the dynamics of intimacy, and the importance of shared first principles and a shared story; and much more.
Dr. Marc Gafni is a visionary thinker, social activist, passionate philosopher, and author of ten books. He is the co-founder of The Center for Integral Wisdom, and a rabbinic lineage holder in Bible, Talmud, and Kabbalah. He self-describes as a “citizen” of both Integral World Spirituality and classical Hebrew practice. He has been an editor of the Journal of Integral Theory and Practice on issues of Integral spirituality and a faculty member of J.F.K. University. In 2014, Dr. Gafni co-initiated the Success 3.0 Summit and Rise Up movie, with John Mackey and Kate Maloney whose method and movement is to bring together key thought leaders and change-agents to collaboratively evolve a bold new Integral vision of Success, rooted in the entrepreneurial values of Wake Up, Grow Up, Show Up, and Evolutionary Love.
Professional Website https://www.marcgafni.com/
The Center for Integral Wisdom https://centerforintegralwisdom.org/
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Sep 25, 2021 • 1h 60min
METAMODELS: Into the Wilberness w/ Ken Wilber
In this episode of the Metamodels series, Bruce and Layman are joined by Ken Wilber, one of the greatest metatheorists of the past century, and a primary inspiration for many of us on this channel. Armed with vision-logic machetes, Bruce and Layman take a trek into the Wilberness to explore the guiding drive or call behind Ken's metatheoretical work for the past 50 years; his thoughts on what he would be working on now if he was just launching his career; his understanding of the difference between sense-making and meaning-making in relation to the meta-crisis; the nature and scope of cognition, and the role of 'relationality' in his AQAL model; how to cultivate communities of integrity, and navigate the culture wars; his perspective on the paranormal and subtle energies; what the Integral community should do to continue thriving in his absence, whenever that day eventually comes; and much more. Ken Wilber, a visionary thinker of inspired genius, is the developer of an integral “theory of everything” that embraces the truths of all the world’s great spiritual, scientific, and philosophical traditions. He is the most widely translated academic writer in America, with 25 books translated into some 30 foreign languages.
Ken Wilber currently lives in Denver, Colorado, and is still active as a philosopher, author, and teacher, with all of his major publications still in print. Often referred to as the "Einstein of consciousness studies," Ken Wilber is a preeminent scholar of the Integral stage of human development. Ken Wilber is also the founder of the Integral Institute, which is the first organization fully dedicated to advancement and application of the Integral Approach in relation to contemporary global issues. It was formed in collaboration with over 200 scholars and experts, specializing in education, politics, business, medicine, psychology, spirituality, as well as, law and criminal justice.
Integral Life website https://integrallife.com/
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Sep 25, 2021 • 2h 8min
SACRED NATURALISM: Part 3 - Shamanism & Sociology w/ Gregg Henriques
Gregg Henriques, a professor renowned for his expertise in metapsychology and unified theory, engages in a compelling discourse about shamanism's relevance in modern society. He explores the role of shamans in healing practices and how their wisdom can help us navigate contemporary crises. The discussion highlights the intersection of ethics, psychology, and nature, advocating for a holistic understanding of health that transcends cultural barriers. They also examine the transformative power of shamanic practices and the importance of integrating spirituality with our ecological consciousness.

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 44min
SACRED NATURALISM: Part 2 w/ Gregg Henriques
Bruce Alderman, Layman Pascal, & Gregg Henriques continue their trialogue on the meaning and promise of a sacred or sophianic naturalism for our time. In this second episode, they reflect on the relevance of insights from "The Elusive I" & "An 'I' for an Elusive I" discussions for this project, and the relation of John Vervaeke's and Gregg's models to evolutionary spirituality; the meaning and significance of 'sacred' in sacred naturalism; the notion of sacred materialism or 'matarealism'; Gregg's justification systems theory and Kierkegaardian or Zen trans-justificatory stages of development; the importance and nature of centauric development, and the contrast of the centaur (or satyr) and the minotaur; guidelines for a sacred naturalist education; and much more.

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 31min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: The Metaphysics of Human Systems w/ Forrest Landry
Layman is joined by Forrest Landry, philosopher of Immanent Metaphysics, a great lover of trinities, a possible mentat, and through his work on human assembly and ephemeral group processes, among other things, a serious contributor to both the theory and practice of more agile, more benevolent, and more satisfying group behavior. In their conversation, they focus on some of the core concepts of human assembly and ephemeral group process, and then broaden the lens to reflect on other topics related to the meaning crisis, spirituality, attention to the wild fringes of our knowledge systems, and much more.
Forrest Landry is a philosopher, writer, researcher, scientist, engineer, craftsman, and teacher focused on metaphysics, the manner in which software applications, tools, and techniques influence the design and management of very large scale complex systems, and the thriving of all forms of life on this planet. His research interests and activities generally center on questions and concerns in three main related areas: 1, the manner and degree to/by which product and systems design influences culture and ecology; 2, an exploration of the nature of the interface between the organic and the inorganic, particularly as realized in the relationship between concept and computation; and 3, the manner and models by which effective personal and social governance could potentially be achieved.
Immanent Metaphysics
mflb.com/uvsm_8/index_uvsm_5.html
Human Systems
www.magic-flight.com/pub/uvsm_1/sgrp_small_group_2.pdf

Aug 27, 2021 • 1h 9min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Wikipedia & Digital Sensemaking w/ Avi Tuschman
Layman welcomes author, entrepreneur, and psychometric AI pioneer, Avi Tuschman, to talk about the pollution of the knowledge ecology through rampant dis- and misinformation, and how Wikipedia might be used as a model for bringing greater integrity to our social media knowledge commons.
Avi Tuschman, Ph.D., is an evolutionary anthropologist, an expert on the hidden roots of political orientation, and the author of Our Political Nature: The Evolutionary Origins of What Divides Us. He began his career in politics as the youngest advisor in the government palace in Lima, Peru. While serving as the senior writer to Peruvian president Alejandro Toledo (2001-2006), Tuschman produced numerous articles and speeches designed to shape public opinion. In 2009, Tuschman joined hands with Toledo and seventeen other former presidents to co-write a regional policy agenda on democratic governance. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon lauded the document and called it historically unprecedented. Avi is also a Stanford StartX entrepreneur and a pioneer in the field of Psychometric AI.
Rosenbaum's Magical Entity: How to Reduce Misinformation on Social Media ourpoliticalnature.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Rosenbaums-Magical-Entity_How-to-Reduce-Misinformation-on-Social-Media_by-Avi-Tuschman_August-2020.pdf
Professional Website http://ourpoliticalnature.com/