
The Integral Stage
At THE INTEGRAL STAGE, we provide a platform to explore emergent integral perspectives, host innovative thinkers, communicators, and creators from around the world, and reflect the larger integrative meta-community back to itself in all its forms.
Additional Audio Podcasts:
Integral Stage Sexuality Series
Integral Stage Metapodcast
Integral Stage Author Series
The Integral Stage is
BRUCE ALDERMAN - Creator, Producer, and Occasional Host
LAYMAN PASCAL - Interviewer, Co-Conspirator, and Digital Shaman
Latest episodes

Apr 18, 2022 • 1h 24min
THE LIMINAL SCENE: The Poisoned Chalice of Integralism w/ Daniel Gortz
Is Integral Theory a "poisoned chalice" -- wondrously made in some regards, but poisoned from within? Has it failed in its promise and become unusable? Bruce and Layman sit down with Daniel Görtz, one half of the metamodern avatar, Hanzi Freinacht, to discuss both the strengths of integral theory, but also the criticisms that have driven a number of people to abandon it -- whether in rejecting it altogether, or in forming counter projects (Hanzi's Metamodernism, various Integral 2.0 efforts), or just in the gradual dispersion of the "integral diaspora." What is the future of the integral movement? Will it fade in influence going forward, or is its full promise still yet to come?

Mar 26, 2022 • 1h 33min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Systems, Freemasonry & Social Fragility w/ Jason Medland
Layman is joined by Jason Medland to talk about the wisdom and insight from both software engineering and long-running Western esoteric traditions, such as the Free Masons, for organizing effectively, preventing system stagnation, maintaining high-level sensemaking and moral commitment, promoting the continued growth of members, and much more. Jason Medland is an OpenSource Software/Systems Architect, Free Mason, firearms and combat sport enthusiast, a Natural Born Psychonaught, and a Meanderthal.
Jason's Medium page: https://jasonmedland.medium.com/
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Mar 26, 2022 • 59min
RE/THINKING RELIGION PART 2 /w John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
In Re/thinking Religion, a new Integral Stage series, John Vervaeke joins Bruce Alderman and Layman Pascal to explore possible points of contact and confluence between their respective approaches to religion and spirituality. For the second episode, we discuss the distinction between absolute and relative in traditional and modern metaphysics, the Two Worlds mythology, and the Ascender and Descender paths, and we consider some historical and contemporary approaches to reconceiving their relations.
In the second half of the dialogue, we turn towards the emotional or 'felt' dimensions of a fundamental shift in perspectives, including David Michael Levin's notions of 'crying for a vision' and gelassenheit as the resolution of dualism; and we begin to touch on the importance for a Religion that is Not a Religion of 'moving into the lack' and fully grieving the death of God.
John Vervaeke is a cognitive scientist, a professor of psychology at Toronto University, and the creator of the popular YouTube series, "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis." "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" Playlist:

Mar 26, 2022 • 1h 36min
NEW EDUCATION: The "Pop-Up School" w/ Bonnitta Roy
In this episode of New Education Systems, Layman is joined by Bonnitta Roy to talk about her new experiment in serial, transformative education: The Pop-Up School. They discuss her inspirations and intentions for the school; her life-long history as an educator; the shortcomings of many current educational models; her ideal transformational curriculum; and the importance of education for the senses, the stages of the self, grief and 'dark nights,' and much more.
Bonnitta Roy is a process philosopher, the founder and president of Alderlore Insight Center, an associate editor for Integral Review, and a consciousness studies and transpersonal psychology professor at The Graduate Institute. She is also the inspiration and instructor behind The Magellan Courses and the Pop-Up School.
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Feb 14, 2022 • 2h
PHILOSOPHICAL CURRENTS: Self-Relating Negation w/ Cadell Last
In this special Integral Stage episode, Layman Pascal is joined by Cadell Last to inquire into the concept of self-relating negativity; the place of lack and the 'gap' in our thinking; the importance of Hegelian and Zizekian perspectives for emerging integrative and metamodern worldviews; the status and problem of the "One"; the question of suffering and our relationship to psychopathology and the symptom; Osho, mysticism and psychospiritual development; and much more. For, as Hegel observed, "The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of dusk."
Cadell Last is a philosopher (Ph.D.) with an interest in anthropology and psychoanalysis, and the author of Global Brain Singularity, and Sex, Masculinity, God.
Philosophy Portal https://www.philosophyportal.online
Home page https://cadelllast.com
YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCtCqYQFPhnU1OnHPveEnYw
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Feb 1, 2022 • 1h 22min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Simpol & Planetary Politics w/ John Bunzl
John Bunzl joins Layman to take a deeper look into Simpol, following his Integral Stage presentation for the Eutopia series. What was the origin of the Simpol idea? How does it relate to evolutionary process? How can it serve worldcentric and healthy nationalist interests simultaneously? How does it manifest in all four quadrants? How can it serve global health and flourishing, without triggering concerns about the over-reach or oppressive dynamics of a 'one world government'?
Bunzl is a global political activist and businessman. In 2000, he founded the Simultaneous Policy (Simpol) campaign, a way for citizens to use their votes to drive politicians towards global cooperation. It has supporters in over 100 countries and enjoys the support of a growing number of Members of Parliament around the world. He has authored or co-authored a number of books including The Simpol Solution, Monetary Reform – Making it Happen!, People-centred Global Governance – Making it Happen!, and Global Domestic Politics. He has published numerous articles on global governance in the Journal of Integral Theory & Practice. He has lectured widely, including to The Schumacher Society, The World Trade Organisation, The Lucis Trust, and various universities.
The Simpol Website: https://www.simpol.org/
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Jan 14, 2022 • 1h 23min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: The Potential of the Intention Economy w/ Welf Von Horen
For episode 15 of LOVE THE SYSTEM, Layman is joined by Welf von Hören to talk about his work co-founding the company, and launching the app, Potential, which aims to transform users' phones to help them unlock better choices. Together they explore the potential for technology to help individuals strengthen agency, set and keep intentions, outgame the attention economy, and interface with AI to make omni-win decisions. How can social media, wisely used, help individuals and communities develop and transform? What is the role of profiling, and how can already-pervasive data collection be refined and improved, and turned towards individuals' and communities' health and benefit? For Integral, GameB, and Metamodern communities, what is the right relationship to money, and how can these communities be empowered to really impact the world?
Welf von Hören is the co-Founder and CEO of Potential company, which produces an app to transform users' phones to help them unlock better choices. He is an applied philosopher, product designer, and software engineer. He studied at CODE University of Applied Sciences, trained with Human Systems, and co-hosts Humane Tech Berlin.
Personal website https://welf.co/
Potential app https://potential.app/
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Jan 6, 2022 • 1h 35min
SPIRITUAL TRANSMISSION: Krishna Gauci
Layman is joined by Krishna Gauci, a spiritual teacher and a disciple of HWL Poonja, to discuss the traditional and contemporary value of satsang; his experience and understanding of the nature and dynamics of spiritual transmission; the qualities needed in students and teachers to amplify and most benefit from satsang or other 'transmissive' contexts and encounters; healthy, unhealthy, and difficult student-teacher relationships; and much more.
Krishna Gauci was born in Monterey, California, and was raised in New York City. Thirty-four years ago, he moved to the Pacific Northwest. He presently lives in Portland with his wife, Vivian. While pursuing his spiritual endeavors, he has worked as an auto assembly line worker, a New York City taxi cab driver, a cabinetmaker, and a bus driver. Krishna has a background in the practice of Buddhist Meditation and has been a devotee of the Spiritual Master HWL Poonja (Papaji) since 1993. He has been a part of (what is now) the Trillium Awakening Community since 1998, and is a founding member of the Trillium Awakening Teachers Circle and the Institute of Awakened Mutuality. He has been holding Satsang since 2000.
Krishna Satsang website http://www.krishnasatsang.com/
Trillium Awakening website https://trilliumawakening.org/
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Jan 1, 2022 • 56min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Preparatory Communitarianism (Thrivespring) w/ Charlotte Cecil & Sophie Allen
Layman is joined by Charlotte Cecil and Sophie Allen, the founders of Thrivespring, an organization dedicated to fostering community resilience and disaster preparedness. Layman introduces his new Ontario Depth Adaptation (ODA) project, and then discusses with Charlotte and Sophie the genesis and mission of their Thrivespring project, and the practical, political, and psychological dynamics of preparedness for an uncertain future and the likelihood of systemic disruption or collapse.
Charlotte Cecil studied emergency management at George Brown College in Toronto, Canada. She has been a volunteer responder with various response and recovery groups, and worked for many years as a security consultant in the UK. Following a life-threatening incident in her early 20s, she became interested in emergency preparedness and security, which evolved into a passion for community resilience. She strongly believes that communities which engage in inclusive resilience-building help create safer, healthier and more cohesive societies.
Sophie Allen studied Climate Change, Development and Policy at the Institute of Development Studies, Sussex, and Environmental Hazards and Disaster Management at Kingston University, London. Her professional experience includes disaster risk reduction and response, sustainable development and volunteer management. Having been involved in a wide range of community projects, Sophie is continually inspired by what people can achieve when they work together toward a common goal.
Thrivespring website https://thrivespring.com/
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Dec 28, 2021 • 1h 40min
RE/THINKING RELIGION (PT 1) -- w/ John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
In Re/thinking Religion, a new Integral Stage series, John Vervaeke joins Bruce Alderman & Layman Pascal to explore possible points of contact and confluence between their respective approaches to religion and spirituality. For this inaugural episode, we feel into some of the commonalities and differences between Integral Postmetaphysical Spirituality and Integral Transformative Practice, and John's "religion that is not a religion" and his work around developing an ecology of practices suitable for addressing the meaning crisis. We touch on a number of related themes: the creative deployment of mythic or literary figures, from Cthulhu and zombies, to the Centaur, the Minotaur, and the khora; the importance of wrestling with existential and epistemological limit conditions, and the role of ambiguity in higher forms of rationality; the relation of non-theism to classical theism and atheism; the history of integrative practices, and the 'traps' in conventional practice that can thwart balanced development; and much more. J
ohn Vervaeke is a professor of psychology at Toronto University and creator of the popular YouTube series "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis."
"Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
Voices with Vervaeke: Metamodern Wisdom about Religion with Layman Pascal: https://youtu.be/bPy6W-c5_9Y
Vervaeke and Hall Begin to Design the Religion That is Not a Religion: https://youtu.be/nl48eFZGRq8
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