
Build a Better Agency Podcast
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
Latest episodes

Dec 19, 2022 • 46min
EP 376: Deploying effective business development strategies with Peter Levitan
Peter Levitan, business development expert, shares tips on getting creative in agency marketing. Topics include standing out from the crowd, direct marketing, thought leadership, and the future of agencies in 2023.

Dec 12, 2022 • 28min
EP 375: Incentivizing daily time tracking with Drew McLellan
Time tracking is one of the most overlooked resources in an agency’s day-to-day operations. Without it, you’re missing out on valuable data about where you need more training, more staff, or even if you’re charging enough for your services. That’s why I’m talking today about incentivizing daily time tracking with your employees. The first thing a lot of your team will say is, “I don’t have time to do this every day.” But, with a little incentive and some tenacity, you can reach 95% to 98% compliance on daily time tracking in no time at all. Tune in to learn my step-by-step plan for starting the conversation, implementing it, and keeping the momentum once you get your team on board. For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The reason why timesheets matter for more than just hours worked Why timesheets should be done every single day How to start talking to your team about daily time tracking Incentivizing the team to track time consistently Holding the team — and yourself — accountable The psychology behind my time-tracking accountability method How to use the data that daily time tracking gives you

Dec 5, 2022 • 57min
EP 374: Good habits for great agency leadership with Jeff Salzenstein
Weary is a great word to describe a lot of agency leaders right now. It comes up again and again that we’re just tired, overworked, and running on fumes. It’s not our fault, but there are things we can do to get back to feeling a little more balanced and less like we’re about to snap. I brought Jeff Salzenstein on this week to teach us some good habits that we can work on little by little to improve our personal lives and help us be better agency leaders. As a former tennis pro, he knows what it’s like to be under pressure and have people counting on you to perform at your peak at all times. We’ll talk about how he made the difficult decision to move from playing tennis to doing leadership coaching. He’ll cover everything he knows about getting your mental, emotional, and physical health to its optimal level so that you can show up as your best self for the people counting on you the most. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How to stay strong and committed in the face of challenges Navigating the weariness that comes with agency leadership Shifting a negative mindset into a positive one Focused breathing as an effective technique to recenter yourself The importance of good sleep for good leadership How incremental changes create significant shifts in our lives The importance of having well-rounded emotional health

Nov 28, 2022 • 44min
EP 373: Optimizing your agency workflow with white-label outsourcing with Manish Dudharejia
Manish Dudharejia, expert in white-label outsourcing and agency workflow optimization, discusses the value of white-label agencies, finding the right mix of experience and trainability in new hires, project management, niching, and the importance of finding free time as an agency owner. They also explore the challenges of access to too much information in social media and provide tips for optimizing agency workflow and taking action for business growth.

Nov 21, 2022 • 45min
EP 372: Prioritizing diversity, equity, and inclusion in marketing agency culture with Farzana Nayani
Marketing agency culture is constantly changing, but adapting the best we can is important. And one of the most important ways we need to be adaptable is by identifying where we can bring more diversity and new perspectives into our company culture. Sometimes when you’re sitting in the boss’s chair, there can be a disconnect between knowing what your people want and need and seeing who might be missing from the room altogether. This is where this week’s guest, Farzana Nayani, comes in to save the day. She has over 20 years of DEI work experience and knows how to get straight to the core of what employees want from their employers. In this episode, we’ll talk about how to create safe environments for everyone, communicate that you’re open to having tough conversations around diversity, equity, and inclusion, quiet quitting and labor hoarding, and how to set boundaries around polarizing topics in the workplace. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How employee resource groups are beneficial to employees How DEI work has changed since Farzana began this work What can we do as business owners to create a safe environment? How to communicate that you’re open to difficult conversations around differences How to learn more about our employees without creating more discomfort How to invite more diversity into your agency culture The rise of quiet quitting and labor hoarding How to avoid polarization around politics in the workplace

Nov 14, 2022 • 48min
EP 371: The changing tides of content marketing strategy with Steve Pockross and Ryan Sargent
Creating content and having a content marketing strategy have become the bread and butter of marketing agencies, and we have the research to prove it. In fact, many agencies are now saying that 75% of their revenue is coming from content. This week, I’m talking with Steve Pockross and Ryan Sargent of Verblio to go over some interesting research they did about content creation, content ROI, what types of content they create, and more. This episode is packed with information that will hopefully give you some valuable insights into why having a good content marketing strategy is so important these days. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Steve and Ryan’s key takeaways from Verblio’s research on content marketing strategy Why it’s okay to outsource content creation The shocking ROI of content marketing How to sell clients on the value of content The challenges of creating good content The importance of finding subject matter experts What types of content are the best to reach an audience Why clients are more willing to pay more for high-quality content

Nov 7, 2022 • 33min
EP 370: The ultimate guide for investing in star employee retention with Drew McLellan
For 2021 and 2022, we’ve been in a job seeker’s market where potential employees have more power to make demands. But now, this period is cooling off as we head into a recession. This means you should be able to find good talent for less money and with fewer demands. We know it’s hard to compete with big corporations for what we can offer, but many people choose to work with agencies because they’re unique and go against the corporate grain. So once you have your star employees, how do you keep them around? This solocast, I’m focusing on how to invest in employee retention, particularly for your star players. This episode will cover three key areas where you can get creative in making your team feel valued and how to implement them in meaningful ways. It’s time to put your money where your mouth is and show your team that they matter — because that’s almost half of the employee retention recipe. Stick around for the full episode to learn the rest! For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The biggest challenge for agency owners in 2021 and 2022 How to creatively compete with big corporations in your employee compensation Why it’s so important to invest in your employees’ career growth What star players look for when choosing to work with an agency Developing a greater purpose for the work you do Why your employees care more than just money How caring more will make your team stick around longer

Oct 31, 2022 • 1h 20min
EP 369: Facing the fears of agency ownership head-on with Drew McLellan
Fear is a familiar feeling in agency ownership. It’s easy to feel like you don’t know what you’re doing or might be missing something important, especially if you’re doing it all yourself. In this episode, I’m delivering advice on how to conquer the biggest agency owner fears in a Collabs & Cocktails event hosted by Predictive ROI. Whether it’s imposter syndrome, money worries, figuring out how to manage employees, or learning how to collaborate with other agency owners, I have some advice that will help ease your mind and get you back to focusing on the important things. For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The four biggest fears of agency ownership How to eliminate money fears by running things by the numbers Taking care of your employees so that they stick around Why you shouldn’t operate on only referrals and word of mouth for biz dev The importance of becoming an authority in your industry Generating right-fit leads Navigating imposter syndrome The right way to collaborate with other agency owners

Oct 24, 2022 • 49min
EP 368: The “Magnificent 7” of leveraging a book to find right-fit clients with Henry DeVries
One of the best ways to establish yourself as a thought leader in your industry and get more right-fit clients is by publishing a book. Often, the people who don’t want to publish a book fall into one of two categories: those who don’t think they know enough (or think everyone knows what they do) or those who think they have the “secret sauce” and don’t want to give it away willingly. Our guest, Henry DeVries, is here to tell us why everyone has it in them to get published, why it’s the best way to find new clients who are a great fit to work with your agency, and the seven best ways to market the book once it’s written. This episode is packed with tips that will teach you exactly how to set yourself apart from other agencies and get clients contacting you for work, not the other way around. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why a book is the #1 marketing tool for an agency How to identify the topic of your book Why giving away your secrets will leave potential clients wanting more Why you know more than you think you do about your industry — so write about it! The “Magnificent Seven” of marketing your new book The spectrum of “getting published” and building your body of work Having a book as a legacy piece for your agency and your accomplishments

Oct 17, 2022 • 43min
EP 367: Giving B2B prospects an outrageous offer they can’t refuse with David Valentine
Today on the podcast, we’re challenging how you approach B2B prospecting. If you’ve ever been afraid to openly advertise your pricing, roll out a free offer for new customers, or try something completely different from the agency norm, I hope this conversation inspires you to take the risk. In this episode, David Valentine and I discuss how his businesses have grown incredibly by using unorthodox methods to drive sales and keep clients for longer through “Outrageous Offers” and case studies. His agencies have closed 75–85% of their sales by giving clients nothing to lose in working with him. He knows that what companies need most are results — and fast. Tune in to hear what he’s learned over ten years of agency experience, the different methods he uses to drive sales, and how he guarantees his clients’ happiness. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: What is an “outrageous offer”? How to stop creating roadblocks for your agency to obtain new business The effectiveness of case studies in showing clients how you can guarantee results How to sell results over selling a product Why attaching free offers to a guaranteed outcome works Why transparency will generate new business for you Making yourself irresistible and undeniable to prospects