It's a Very Exciting Time

Chuck is still on vacation, but the UFO news just keeps coming hot and heavy, so Scott’s back with another solo episode to keep you up-to-date. We’ve got several stories this week, including an alleged secret Canadian UAP reverse engineering program and continued denials from the Pentagon. But the biggest story is that Congress is taking the claims of whistleblower David Grusch very seriously. We’ve got quotes from multiple Congresspeople as well as new UAP provisions written into the upcoming Intelligence Community Authorization Act that will remove funding from UAP programs that haven’t reported to Congress and a ticking clock for defense contractors to turn over any UFO material or information they got from the government, or face penalties! References: The New York Times: Ezra Klein Interviews Leslie Kean (Transcript) Liberation Times: Bombshell Letter Reveals Canadian Politician's Concerns Of Covert UFO Programs Involving Canada And Five Eyes Alliance MP Larry Maguire’s letter claiming Canada’s DARPA has UAP material Daniel Otis: Canadian defense minister denies allegations of crash recovery Ross Coulthart: Canadian response is not a broad government denial NewsNation: US has ‘downplayed’ the number of UFO sightings: Senator Hawley Matt Laslo: Rubio says UAP whistleblower first credibly vetted, referred to Congress Matt Laslo: Intel Chair Warner says gov’t has hidden programs from Congress in past Matt Laslo: Gillibrand scheduling hearings with UAP whistleblower David Grusch Liberation Times: Pentagon Unable To Confirm Or Deny Discovery Of Materials Originating From Non-Human Intelligences Or Unknown Origin Within Secretive Programs Douglas Dean Johnson: Senate Intelligence bill gives holders of "non-earth origin or exotic UAP material" six months to make it available to AARO Liberation Times: Senate Intelligence Committee Proposes Amnesty to Defense Contractors for Disclosure of 'Non-Earth Origin or Exotic Materials' in Approved UFO Language The Hill: Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs NewsNation: Rubio: Recent UFO whistleblower isn’t the only one NY Mag: Marco Rubio Says He’s Heard Shocking ‘Firsthand’ Accounts of UFOs Matt Laslo: Rep. Burchett hopes to hold public UAP hearing in July Chris Mellon on Senate uncovering truth of off-world tech. Chris Mellon on Congress pursuing evidence of off-world tech. Gillibrand Secures Full Funding For UAP Office In Senate Defense Bill Markup Barnett Parker: Lockheed refers UAP question to AARO Ross Coulthart: Why should AARO have to answer for Lockheed?

Scott's coming at you solo with the latest updates on UFO Whistleblower David Grusch's story. This week we're covering his video interview with Ross Coulthart, where among other revelations he shared that the Vatican helped the US recover a crashed UFO from Italy in 1945, and that the US government possibly has "agreements" with non-human intelligences. Not to mention running a decades-long coverup and disinformation operation against US citizens. We also cover the latest Congressional reactions to Grusch's story, as well as Michael Shellenberger's story with additional sources confirming Grusch's claims. References NewsNation: We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks Reddit: Grusch Interview: The Big Stuff SummaryDaily Mail: Pentagon whistleblower says the Vatican is aware of the existence of non-human intelligences and helped the US retrieve a downed UFO from Italian dictator Mussolini at the end of WW2 Liberation Times: Unclassified Version Of David Grusch’s UFO-Related Reprisal Complaint Released Daily Wire: Congressman Heading Up UFO Hearing After Shocking Whistleblower Allegations: ‘We’re Serious About This Issue’ Wired: UFO Whistleblower, Meet a Conspiracy-Loving Congress Washington Examiner: What should we make of UFO whistleblower David Grusch? Michael Shellenberger: US Has 12 Or More Alien Spacecraft, Say Military And Intelligence Contractors

It's happening! Whistleblower David Grusch, a USAF veteran and senior intelligence officer has provided information to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General about illegal covert programs that possess retrieved non-human craft. This is a wild story, and we're going to talk about what he's claiming, why it's credible, how he differs from previous stories like Bob Lazar, and how the community is reacting. There's more to come, too, with additional interviews dropping shortly. If this is what it looks like, then this could be the start of Disclosure with a capital D! References: The Debrief: Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin The Hill: Claims that UFO information was inappropriately withheld from Congress deemed ‘credible,’ ‘urgent’ The Guardian: House of Representatives to hold hearing on whistleblower’s UFO claims Tim Burchett: “We are not alone, and we’ll get some answers.” Vanity Fair: Why The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Politico Didn’t Publish a Seemingly Bombshell Report About UFOs Liberation Times: Former Chief Scientist for Air Force Space Command Vouches For UFO Whistleblower's Integrity Ross Coulthart: “Grusch has given the location of where craft are stored.” Ross Coulthart on Grusch’s lack of evidence Kelly Chase on Grusch clearing DOPSR Reddit: Summary of David Grusch story Reddit: This is a major shift in the narrative

In this episode, we're talking about the NASA UAP Study Panel, who recently held their first public briefing ahead of their expected report in July. During the briefing, they questioned Dr Kirkpatrick from AARO, and agreed on the need for more and better quality data on UAP. We'll also talk about Dr Avi Loeb of Harvard, whose Galileo Project is moving forward with public data collection and announced they have plans to set up five additional observatories. And last but very much not least, we'll hear from Chris #UFODaddy Mellon, who says that if the US Government holds UFO crash materials, now is the time to reveal them! References Jeremy Corbell: Whistleblowers are angry about AARO saying no evidence of extraterrestrial Tim McMillan: Dr Kirkpatrick is rated as a “Highly Qualified Expert” The Debrief: NASA, AARO and the Galileo Project Agree on the Need for a Scientific Study of UAP WSJ: NASA's UFO Research Team Briefs the Public The Debrief: NASA Study Team on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Calls for Better Data, Ending Harassment and Stigmas The Debrief: NASA’s UAP Study: Here Are the Key Takeaways from Yesterday’s Public Briefing Reddit: Summary of NASA's UAP task force livestream The Hill: US military has been observing ‘metallic orbs’ making extraordinary ‘maneuvers’ Liberation Times: NASA Confirms It Has No Official Position On ‘GoFast’ UFO Video Politico: If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them

Dr. Garry Nolan, a well-respected Standard immunologist, was interviewed recently at a financial conference about UFOs. He said some fascinating things about UAP, the government's response, what they might be, and how to destigmatize the topic to encourage scientists to take it seriously. He also mentioned that a recent whistleblower testimony "created quite a hornet's nest in Washington!" We'll talk about Garry's background, and why we find him credible. References Rep. Burchett on upcoming House UAP hearings Rep. Luna’s office says hearing will be public SALT conference video

We're back is a bit of followup on the recent UAP hearing. In particular a few red flags have been raised that seem to indicate that the DOD is, at best, dragging their feet, and at worst, actively working to sabotage AARO, the UFO office set up at the behest of Congress. In addition to that, we're hearing increasingly specific information about whistleblowers testifying to both AARO and Congress, which raises the question of why Dr. Kirkpatrick said there's no credible evidence. Something doesn't add up here, and it feels like pressure is building. Also, we dub Senator Kirsten Gillibrand "UFO Mama Bear," joining the ranks of Chris "UFO Daddy" Mellon. References Tim McMillan: AARO doesn’t have Title 50 authority. The Debrief: Here Are the Major Takeaways You Missed From the Recent Senate Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Reddit: New letter from US Senators Mark Warner and Marco Rubio to DOD expressing concerns about NDAA provisions New York Post: Three months after Chinese spy balloon, DoD still hasn’t strengthened UFO analysis office Job posting: AARO Deputy Director Klaus: Job posting states that candidates should have expertise in “foreign material acquisition and exploitation.” Chris Mellon: “I find the testimony of US military personnel in the Nimitz case perfectly credible evidence…” Chris Mellon: “For Dr. Kirkpatrick to claim there is no credible evidence is disingenuous at best.” Garry Nolan: “Anecdotal evidence by credible witnesses… is data.” Garry Nolan: “The extraordinary claims/evidence meme is pretentious nonsense.” Lue Elizondo: “The fact is - I've already spoken to AARO at length.” Liberation Times: Senator Gillibrand Invites UFO Whistleblowers To Share Testimony With Her Office Daily Mail: Six whistleblowers who claim they worked on military UFO programs retrieving and analyzing crash material have come forward to spill their secrets to senior members of congress Reddit: The last five years have spoiled everyone…

For the last several weeks, rumors have been swirling that Congress was upset at the DoD over perceived foot-dragging on the topic of UAP. Sen. Gillibrand was demanding answers about a funding shortfall for the new AARO office, and many Congresspeople seemed frustrated with the lack of clarity from the military around the spy balloon shoot-downs. So when it was announced that a new public UAP hearing would be held soon, the community went wild. Speculation about what would come up in the hearing ranged from persistent rumors of whistleblower testimony about crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs all the way up to overt confirmation of non-human intelligence. In the end, the April 2023 hearing didn't cover any of that, and was more of a status update and view inside operations at AARO. We did get a new UAP video, a revised timeline for the next UAP report, some insight into how AARO investigates UAP cases, and hints of further hearings coming soon. References Sen. Gillibrand, Rubio, letter about AARO funding shortfall Sen. Gillibrand asks DNI Haines about AARO funding Sen Gillibrand asks SecDef Austin about AARO funding Liberation Times: Congress Prepares For UFO Hearings As Frustrations Escalate Among Politicians Liberation Times: Make Or Break Time For Kirkpatrick As UFO Senate Hearing Approaches Reddit: Big news coming soon Dr. Garry Nolan: "within 6 months, insiders will step forward, and that will change things" James Fox: “multiple whistleblowers have testified to AARO and Senate Intel committee that UFO crash retrieval programs exist” Dr. Garry Nolan: “whistleblower testimony is about crash retrieval and contact” USSF MajGen Olson speaks on worldwide UAP sightings Ross Coulthard on Need to Know discussing upcoming hearing Full video of the April 19 Hearing AARO slide on UAP Reporting Trends from 1996-2023 Drone footage of flying metal sphere in the Middle East The Debrief: Senate Hearing on UAP Reveals New Videos and Common Features, but Says No Proof of ET The Debrief: No Evidence of ET? Controversy Erupted After the Senate UAP Hearing. Here’s What the Critics Missed

Buckle up, because we're getting into the weird today! Recently, increasing reports have been emerging from US intelligence and government sources that UFOs may not be aliens, but our own descendants from the far future traveling back in time to avert an impending catastrophe. It's a wild idea, but there's a bit more substance to it than you might think! References Black Vault: USAF Says All Photos / Videos of 2023 Balloon Shootdowns Classified Ross Coulthart: Why the secrecy? Politico: What the Biden administration isn’t telling Congress about spy balloons News Nation: Rep Burchett on new UFO hearings Michael Masters: Identified Flying Objects & The Extratempestrial Model UFO Rabbit Hole: Interview with Michael Masters Ross Coulthart: Theories of Everything interview mentioning future humans Unidentified Celebrity Review: Interview with Franc Milburn Wikipedia: The double-slit experiment NPR: Paradox-Free Time Travel Is Theoretically Possible, Researchers Say Quote: Banana Peels and Time Travel Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies The UFO Rabbit Hole: Are UFOs Humans from the Future? Point of Convergence: The case for time traveling post-terrestrial visitors Point of Convergence: Reports of Future Humans Warring Over the Coming Planet-Wide Cataclysm PBS Space Time: What If Space And Time Are NOT Real? PBS Space Time: What’s Your Brain’s Role in Creating Space & Time?

In March of 2021, I saw a post in r/aliens on Reddit by the title “Retired Defense Intelligence Officer with a CE5 Experience to Share.” It got a lot of attention with a great story and some pretty phenomenal claims. The author, a woman named Anjali, who is a former defense intelligence officer, claims to have met a man in 2018 who excavated a tunnel to find an alien base in a mountain on his land in the Mojave Desert. He took her there, and she met beings from a council overseeing life on earth. They told her that she needed to wake up and remember why she’s here, because humanity’s days are numbered and those who fail to evolve will not transcend. I'm super excited about today's topic, because the excitement surrounding Anjali's reddit post and the subsequent months of drama are what really got me fully back into the UFO topic, and started Chuck and I talking about it even before we thought of doing a podcast.  References: Congressman Says Alien UFO Tech Is Being 'Reverse Engineered' in Secret Lockheed Martin Challenged On UFO Legacy Programs, As Politicians Talk Hearings Avi Loeb and the DoD’s Chief UAP Investigator Sean Kirkpatrick Say Solving Aerial Mysteries Requires Known Physics Pentagon UFO chief says alien mothership in our solar system possible Anjali’s original Reddit post Anjali’s press conference Wayne comes forward, says they were high and there were no aliens Anjali says we have been “invaded by a more advanced race”

Y'all, it has been a *wild* two weeks since the US shot down three UFOs that turned out to be hobby balloons. The Pentagon is being weird about the balloons, the Senate is being weird about UAP, some sources claim the Navy told Biden that the Air Force is lying to him about UAP, and possibly as a result, Biden created his own independent UAP task force. Oh, and also, the Obama Library has thousands of pages of records about UAP? What is happening? References: Daily Mail: Pentagon's UFO office had only THREE staffers until recent weeks Debrief: Excessive Secrecy Could Undermine U.S. Efforts to Evaluate UAP Biden: Intelligence community says they’re private balloons Aviation Week: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down by USAF John Kirby: We have not identified those responsible for the objects BBC: US and Canada abandon search for three flying objects shot down Debrief: US Senators Leave Classified Briefing on UAP with More Questions Debrief: Pentagon has no plans to release images of objects CNN: National security advisor will lead new “interagency team” to study UAP Marco Rubio: Why create a new team when we have AARO? Wall Street Journal: Pentagon’s UAP Office is Underfunded, Senators Say Gillibrand: Bipartisan push for full funding of AARO Lou Elizondo: comments on AARO vs new NSC team Ross Coulthart: Navy commander told Biden about USAF coverup Sen. Blumenthal: “The American people should be given more information.” Liberation Times: Pentagon’s Silence on UFOs Threatens to Undermine Biden Black Vault: Jackpot! 3k page & 23k electronic files in Obama Library Black Vault: 16 years to review! Black Vault: 5,196 classified electronic records in Obama Library