It's a Very Exciting Time

In this episode, former UAP program director Lue Elizondo and UAP whistleblower David Grusch both predict that 2024 will be “wild in a good way.” Then we discuss the new Grusch interviews that dropped, which go into a bit more detail on why the government approved him talking about this stuff at all, the culture of secrecy, and how his autism worked in his favor during his investigation. And finally, the new Netflix documentary was quite good. It covers four different mass UFO eyewitness events, including the Ariel School incident and UFO sightings over Fukushima. You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.

It’s been a busy few weeks! We briefly touch on the Alien Mummy story in Mexico, report on some House UFO gossip, including another upcoming UAP hearing. We look at reports that multiple senators have been pressuring AARO to do a better job protecting whistleblowers, and a new article claiming more than 30 additional whistleblowers have come forward to the ICIG directly. And lastly, we discuss the report released by NASA’s independent UAP study team, which manages to make a lot of solid recommendations about NASA’s role in gathering UAP data moving forward, while also being dismissive and condescending toward the topic in general.https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Rep. Luna: “Still working on a SCIF for Grusch.” Rep. Burchett: “Speaker promised another hearing, but no select committee because guys in intelligence were getting their feathers ruffled.” Rep. Burchett: “We’ve had the whistleblower, now we’re gonna get the government in.” Rep Burchett: “I was told we couldn’t have a select committee because we stepped on the Intel Committee’s toes.” Sen Rounds: “AARO needs to make sure whistleblowers can share info safely.” Sen Warner: “Rubio and I met with Kirkpatrick, this is a serious topic.” ICIG: “has not conducted any audit, inspection, evaluation, or review of alleged UAP programs” Rep. Burchett: “They have no info for Congress? Cover-up.” Matthew Pines: “Is it curious that an ‘investigation’ is not denied?” Chuck McCullough: “IGs are reluctant to speak to Congress because it leaks like a sieve.” Michael Shellenberger: Dozens Of Government UFO Whistleblowers Have Given Testimony To Congress, Pentagon, And Inspectors General, Say Sources NASA: UAP Independent Study Team Report (archive.org link) Red Sprite imagery: https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11059 NASA: NASA Shares UAP Independent Study Report; Names Director The Debrief: NASA’s UAP Independent Study Team Publishes Its Findings, as the Agency Appoints a New NASA Director of UAP Research Daily Mail: NASA panel 'neglected' wind data to claim GOFAST UFO 'drifted' in wind Ross Coulthart: “NASA only looked at peer-reviewed scientific literature.” Chris Mellon: “In just 5 years, we have Congress, DOD, and NASA engaged.”

We’re back with news from around the UAP community. First, Chuck’s here to talk about Avi Loeb’s claim to have recovered fragments of an interstellar object. Then we’ve got a quick update on more whistleblower activity. And finally, we’ve got some news about AARO, who recently moved in the org chart to report directly to Deputy Defense Secretary Hicks, who knocked some heads together and finally got their website launches (though it still has no contact info). Also, we discuss some reports that AARO themselves may be in possession of “anomalous materials!” https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Avi Loeb: Discovery of Spherules of Likely Extrasolar Composition USA Today: Metallic spheres found on Pacific floor are interstellar in origin, Harvard professor finds The Guardian: Astrophysicist Avi Loeb: ‘UFOs should be the subject of mainstream inquiry. Science must bring clarity’ New York Times: Scientist’s Deep Dive for Alien Life Leaves His Peers Dubious Liberation Times: People vs. Pentagon: The Battle for UFO Transparency Defense Scoop: Hicks takes direct oversight of Pentagon’s UAP office; new reporting website to be launched Kelly Chase: “Sounds like Kirkpatrick’s on a PIP.” All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office website The Debrief: The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office Has Finally Launched Its Official Website. Here’s What’s Missing. Michio Kaku: “The burden of proof has shifted.” Liberation Times: Multiple Sources Confirm The Pentagon's UFO Office Has Coordinated Collection And Analysis Of Material From Unknown Origin Matt Ford: “Multiple people have bypassed AARO to file whistleblower reports with the ICIG.”

Although Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we’re back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch’s classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearings in the House Oversight Committee to protect the reputation of the DOD. Plus, White House national security spokesman John Kirby dodges an opportunity to deny Grusch’s claims, while Gov. Christie laughs off a UFO question at the Republican presidential debate. https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Rep Luna: “We’re working on getting Grusch clearance and access to a SCIF.” Jeremy Corbell: “Grusch has been muzzled, but it won’t last.” Rep Burchett: “We wrote to the ICIG for details.” The Hill: “Lawmakers want subpoena power in UFO inquiries” The Hill: “UFO whistleblower claims not denied by John Kirby” Jen Psaki: “I wasn’t on the alien or UFO portfolio.” Chris Mellon: “Sadly, no further UAP hearings in the HOC.” Klaus: “Lack of HOC hearings not the disaster some make it out to be.” Ross Coulthart: “The pushback from Pentagon and IC is intense.” Rep Burchett staffer: “Rep Turner convinced Rep Comer UAP hearings would harm DOD reputation.” Liberation Times: “Pressure Mounts On House Intelligence Chairman Following Dismissive And Baffling Approach To “Credible And Urgent” UFO Whistleblower Allegations” The Debrief: “Questions About UAP Enter the 2024 Presidential Race” Vivek Ramaswamy: “We can handle the truth.”

This week we’re covering two topics. Firstly, UAP whistleblower David Grusch’s past struggles with PTSD and suicide are published, sparking claims that the intelligence community is attempting to discredit Grusch and intimidate other witnesses. Then, we get weird, discussing a Reddit post where a molecular biologist claims to have worked in a program studying the genetics of alien bodies for a defense contractor. The details are fascinating, and there’s some indications that the scientist may be legit. Chuck and I are especially fascinated by his claims about the alien’s religion, belief in a “soul field.” https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References The Debrief: The Struggles of a Whistleblower: Separating Fact from Fiction in the Latest UAP Revelations Ken Klippenstein: “Multiple people told me to look at run ins with law enforcement.” Ross Coulthart: “The tip could only have come from Grusch’s security files.” Tim Burchett: “Someone needs to lose their job.” George Knapp: “Attempted slime job on Grusch is a warning to other whistleblowers” Lue Elizondo: “A veteran’s PTSD should NEVER be used against them.” Reddit: “I worked as a molecular biologist in a program to study EBOs.”

In this week’s exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week’s explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon’s claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick’s weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower allegations that they’re involved in the reverse engineering program. You can support us on Patreon! References Chris Mellon: “AARO has not shared satellite images with Congress” Chris Mellon: “The oversight committees were asking about satellite data back in 2017.” Chris Mellon: “I've seen some VERY compelling evidence.” Liberation Times: Department of Defense Confirms UFO Chief Did Write Scathing Letter Following Public Hearing Rep Luna: “We had a witness testify he was in fear for his life and his former boss posts a letter attempting to discredit him? Seems odd.” Nick Pope: “firing off a personal missive like this was unheard of.” Rogue UAPTF: “Kirkpatrick’s statement was unethical and likely illegal.” Tim McMillan: “Never seen a sr civil servant publicly admonish Congress” Jeremy Corbell: “Interfering with Congress and whistleblowers is illegal” Eric Weinstein: “warring factions in the US government.” Sen. Gillibrand: “I asked for Dr Kirkpatrick to meet with Grusch.” Ross Coulthart: “AARO is sending a shocking signal - no phone, no email” Liberation Times: “Dozens of firsthand whistleblowers are frustrated with AARO’s handling of their claims.” AOC: “I do think something is going on.” Condorman: “sudden hard industry crackdown on all things UAP” NewsNation: “Lockheed does not deny whistleblower claims.” Ross Coulthart: “Why should DOD answer for Lockheed?” Condorman: “Executives’ past bonuses can be ‘clawed back’ if they’ve withheld financial significant information.” Attorney: “C-Suite will sing like canaries to avoid prison”

The House Oversight Committee’s UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it was notable that they testified under oath to an engaged and bipartisan group of representatives. There was no joking, no attempts to undermine the claims being made, and no political maneuvering. The tone was remarkably serious, and the clear impression is that Congress isn’t letting this topic go. They’re on the ball, and already talking about next steps, including the formation of a UAP select committee with subpoena power! Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Video: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency Opening statements from David Grusch, Ryan Graves, and David Fravor The Debrief: Whistleblowers Testify Under Oath Regarding "Craft of Non-Human Origin" and Military Encounters with UAP The Debrief: Congressman Provides Account of Military UAP Image That He Says Matches No “Human Capability” The Debrief: The Congressional Hearing on UAP: What We Learned From Yesterday’s Testimony Reddit: Grusch’s rank and type Sean Kirkpatrick: statement on “hearings and transparency” Rep Moskowitz: HOC working to get classified Grusch info from ICIG Rep Moskowitz: I support the creation of a select committee on UAP Chris Mellon: “I’ve been told we have recovered non-earth technology.” Sean Cahill: “People mischaracterize Grusch as a witness. He’s the investigating officer.” Reddit: “Wasn’t analyzing secondhand info Grusch’s job?” Kelly Chase: No legal mechanism to share classified info with public Kelly Chase: The firsthand whistleblowers are coming Kelly Chase: The popular debunker narrative is no longer tenable

They’ve announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee’s UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they’re making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confront ongoing Pentagon interference in their UFO investigation. It’s clear Congress knows more than they’re saying… Could it be the reason they’re pushing so hard is because they already have smoking gun evidence? References Video: Rep. Burchett and colleagues hold press conference on upcoming Oversight Committee hearing on UAPs Rep. Burchett: “I don’t believe they can keep their thumb in the dam much longer.” Rep. Luna: “The Pentagon answers to the people and thus Congress” Rep. Moskowitz: “Disclosure is coming!” Exoacademian: “This is not your imagination.” Dr Kirkpatrick: “We believe [the whistleblowers] have seen something.” Gaël Lombart: “It’s not clear to me that Grusch has no firsthand info.” Lue Elizondo: “You are wrong [that Grusch has no firsthand info].” Lue Elizondo: “Chris and I are still very much in the fight.” Chris Mellon: “Congress should ask the ICIG what it has uncovered.” Lue Elizondo: “I know Grusch personally and he’s an American treasure.” Ross Coulthart: “Here’s someone Congress should question under oath.” Post Disclosure World: “For those disappointed… the media will cover it.” Rep. Burchett: “We lost a witness because of Pentagon interference.” Rep. Burchett: “Why is the intelligence community blocking my amendment?” Yankeenate: “From a certain point of view, both Burchett & McGovern are correct.” Rep. Burchett: “We were denied access to footage.” Debrief: Pentagon Official Warns of Potential Threat From Extraterrestrial “Technical Supremacy” as UAP Hearing Approaches Mick West: “Witnesses have told their story before. What will we get from this hearing?” Garry Nolan: “Congress is doing this scientifically. This is the validation process.” Oversight Committee: “All witnesses are sworn in prior to delivering testimony.” NASA: “NASA was not requested to participate in the UAP hearing.” Mid Bay News: Members of Congress Lambast Eglin General Over UFO Information Rep. Luna: “The level of backtracking from the Pentagon is unreal.” Matt Gaetz: “I have seen evidence of craft that I am not familiar with.” Liberation Times: As UFO Momentum Accelerates, Something Has To Give

Huge news this week as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduces the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023! This is a bipartisan NDAA amendment that would introduce a JFK-style UAP record review board who would review all government records with the intent to release all UAP items within 25 years. Huge! We talk about the implications of this, why it matters, and what the limitations might be. We also discuss the upcoming House UAP hearing, which has been scheduled for July 26, and the increasing willingness of Congress to take the topic seriously. Buckle up! References Politico: House GOP plans to hold long-teased UFO hearing Reps Comer & Luna: “House UFO hearing date is July 26th.” Rep. Comer: ‘Lots of interest’ in possible UFO hearing Rep. Luna: “...it's very likely that there's other life forms out there...” Rep. Burchett: “We have the Pentagon pushing against us.” Rep. Gallagher: “Aliens, just call them aliens, okay?” Ross Coulthart: "A revelation from congress which makes the evidence incontrovertible…" Admiral Wilson: “I wonder why Congress hasn’t said we’d like to hear from Admiral Wilson” Marco Rubio: “Either this is the biggest story in human history or we have people who are crazy.” The Debrief: The ‘UAP Disclosure Act of 2023’: What We Know About Chuck Schumer and the Senate’s New Push for UAP Transparency Press Release: Schumer, Rounds Introduce New Legislation To Declassify Government Records Related To Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena & UFOs – Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act – As An Amendment To NDAA Sen. Schumer: “I’m introducing new legislation to declassify UFO records.” Sen. Schumer: “Honored to carry on the legacy of Harry Reid…” Ross Coulthart: “UAP amendments enjoy bipartisan support.” Klaus: “Records were improperly classified as ‘foreign nuclear info.” Ross Coulthart: “These UAP laws are extraordinary.” Joe Khalil: “Schumer likely highest ranking member of Congress to back something like this.” New York Times: Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Release of U.F.O. Records Garry Nolan: “NYT article doesn’t mention Grusch.” Chris Mellon: “Little public benefit as recent UAP data is classified.” Marik: “Specificity of intel must have been extraordinary” Matt Pines: “Drafted with bipartisan support in complete secrecy” Liberation Times: Congress Initiates Plan To Reveal Recovered ‘Technologies Of Unknown Origin And Biological Evidence Of Non-Human Intelligence’

Chuck is out sick, but we’ve got a special cohost for today: Scott’s wife, Annie! We’re going to be discussing the continuing news of impending UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, possibly this month! We have additional comments from Marco Rubios’ NewsNation interview, discussing whistleblower concerns that speaking out is punishable by death, and the specter of an unaccountable UAP complex. And journalist Ross Coulthart appeared on all the podcasts, and left some juicy bits of information for us, including the possibility that one of the recovered craft was too large to move, and they just built a building around it! Plus, whistleblowers under threat to sign new NDAs and some legal considerations around private contractors working with government-provided UFO material. References Sen staffer: SAS UAP hearing in July Rep. Luna: Grusch to testify publicly at HOC hearing in July Sen. Heinrich: Skeptical of Grusch, but supports UAP hearings Ross Coulthart: Congressional hearings may bump to September Rep. Comer: Some UAP witnesses failed background checks Ross Coulthart: Failed background check witnesses were from Greer Marco Rubio: Full NewsNation interview Marco Rubio: Corrected transcript of NewsNation interview Daily Mail: Senator Marco Rubio worries craft retrieval programs are being run by 'internal military complex' that is 'accountable to no one' Daily Mail: Investigative journalist who broke Pentagon UFO story reveals MORE whistleblowers will come forward but they're scared of losing their jobs, safety and their security clearance Ross Coulthart: Secret UAP hearings for two years Ross Coulthart: Whistleblowers have been threatened to sign new NDAs Ross Coulthart: At least one aerospace co trying to divest itself of a craft Ross Coulthart: Some of these craft are so big they built a building over it Ross Coulthart: Jake Sullivan attended a Senate UFO meeting Houston Lawyer: We’re filing dozens of Rico lawsuits against contractors