

The Rules of Investing
Livewire Markets
The Rules of Investing is one of Australia’s longest-running business podcasts, providing investors with unparalleled access to the ideas and insights of Australia’s leading fund managers, economists and industry experts. Learn how the industry’s best invest, with the help of Livewire’s James Marlay and Chris Conway. Whether you’re new to investing or a seasoned professional, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every second Friday, available on Livewire Markets, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
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Nov 21, 2025 • 39min
The playbook behind Plato’s 25 percent returns
Dr David Allen from Plato Investment Management joins the show to unpack the systematic engine behind his fund’s 25 percent annual returns, how red flags reveal stocks set to fall, and the global themes he believes will drive markets over the next decade.

Nov 7, 2025 • 39min
Chris Prunty: The 4 small caps heading for ‘Hall of Fame’ status
Chris Prunty, Principal and Portfolio Manager at QVG Capital, dives into the qualities that elevate companies to greatness. He reveals three key traits shared by Australia’s elite stocks and names four promising small caps: Hub24, Supply Networks, Aussie Broadband, and MA Financial. Chris explains why Hub24 outshines Netwealth, focusing on margins and customer integration. He shares insights on inflation's impact on the market, and how hiring intentions signal growth potential. Join him for a deep dive into the bright future of small-cap investing!

Nov 3, 2025 • 40min
The property assets still trading at a discount as investors chase growth
Property moves in cycles, but real value lies in assets you can’t replace. Quay Global Investors’ Chris Bedingfield joins The Rules of Investing to explain why global REITs are trading at some of the biggest discounts in years, how ageing demographics and construction costs are reshaping real estate, and why patience remains the most underrated edge for investors.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 40min
The five-year test: Lev Margolin’s four-step process for finding structural winners
In this conversation with Lev Margolin, Founder and CIO of System Capital, they explore his innovative four-step framework for identifying companies poised for growth over the next five years. Lev shares insights from his early career, lessons on investment philosophy, and how he balances long and short positions. He highlights examples like toll roads as cash-flow businesses and emphasizes the importance of loss minimization. Lev also warns investors to focus on cash flow amidst market uncertainties and reveals his top stock pick for long-term success.

Oct 24, 2025 • 34min
Inside the Soul Patts compounding machine
Soul Patts CEO Todd Barlow joins The Rules of Investing to unpack the firm’s merger with Brickworks, why he’s buying at cyclical lows, and how he’s positioning for the future of energy. He also shares why liquidity and humility matter when markets are running hot.
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Oct 17, 2025 • 41min
Magellan's value picks as sentiment soars
Markets are on fire and bubble talk is everywhere. So how should investors respond? In this episode, Magellan’s Arvid Streimann breaks down how to keep emotion out of your decisions, where he’s finding genuine value, and why he still believes in the power of brands and discipline.
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Oct 13, 2025 • 34min
Matthew Kidman: The two best times to make money in markets are coming
In this episode of The Rules of Investing, Centennial’s Matthew Kidman shares his playbook for the late stage of a structural bull market. He explains why valuations don’t matter (for now), how he found his first 10-bagger, and the standout management teams on the ASX. Plus, Kidman reveals why he’s still bullish on markets — and what could eventually bring it all undone.

Oct 10, 2025 • 41min
Warryn Robertson: The secret to owning the world’s best assets
Warryn Robertson has spent two decades investing in the assets that keep the world running — from toll roads to transmission lines and satellites. In this episode, he explains the rules for owning the world’s best assets, why getting the definition right matters, and what investors are getting wrong about markets today.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 31min
A look inside the portfolios of Australia's leading investors - Livewire Live Mini-Series
Two of Australia’s most respected investment firms share how they are positioning for tomorrow. Learn where they see opportunity and how their strategies are evolving. From private credit to gold, discover where Soul Patts’ Todd Barlow and Regal’s Phil King see the biggest returns.
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This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.
Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Oct 1, 2025 • 43min
10 years from now, these are the companies everyone will wish they owned - Livewire Live Mini-Series
From gaming stock to global giant, Nvidia shows how fast the future can arrive. Global stock pickers Josh Cummings, Qiao Ma and Dr David Allen share where they see the next mega caps emerging.
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This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.
Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]


