

VS
Poetry Foundation
The VS podcast is a bi-weekly series where poets confront the ideas that move them. Hosted by poets Ajanaé Dawkins and Brittany Rogers, produced by Cin Pim/Ombie Productions, and presented by the Poetry Foundation.
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Sep 1, 2020 • 1h 12min
Aurielle Marie vs. Audacity
Aurielle Marie hops on the line, and the line will never be the same. The poet and organizer talks about the ways that her poetics and movement work are interwoven, her decision to walk away from a book deal, and much more!
See more of Aurielle’s work: https://auriellemarie.com/
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Aug 18, 2020 • 1h 5min
John Murillo vs. The Business
Danez and Franny hop on the ole zoom zoom with legendary poet and beard icon John Murillo. John talks about his new book Kontemporary Amerikan Poetry, learning how to focus on the work instead of po-biz, remembering who he writes for, and much more. Plus, a hilarious story involving a staged adulterous act.
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Aug 4, 2020 • 51min
Michael Lee vs. Grief
After Franny’s episode talking with Cam Awkward-Rich, Danez goes one-on-one with their buddy Michael Lee, a Norwegian-American writer, youth worker, and organizer in Minneapolis. The dynamic duo talks about grief’s place in poems, Michael’s traumatic brain injury, obliterating whiteness, and some fond memories together.
Pick up Michael’s book The Only Worlds We Know
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Jul 21, 2020 • 54min
Cameron Awkward-Rich vs. Ambivalence
On this very special one-on-one episode of VS, we get a peek inside the blanket fort that Franny has built and get to listen to her chat with poet and professor Cameron Awkward-Rich (who also happens to be her boo). They talk about the pros and cons of isolation, the forces and spaces that created Cam’s newest book Dispatch, and, most importantly, their illustrious cat Bean.
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Jul 21, 2020 • 5min
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Jun 2, 2020 • 1h 11min
Paige Lewis vs. Tiny Things
Recorded back before COVID-19 sent the VS team home to different corners of the country, Franny and Danez sat down with poet Paige Lewis for a good ole fashioned in-person chat. Paige breaks down Beta Fish, the nonbinary epic they’re writing, the power of focusing on the micro, and more.
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May 19, 2020 • 1h 28min
Chris Abani vs. Entanglement
You’ve just enrolled in one of the best classes anyone could ever take. This week’s guest, Chris Abani, is a master teacher, poet, screenwriter, and thinker who is ready to help you understand, even if the process kicks your butt a little. In this marathon episode recorded before the pandemic descended, Chris talks about the ways our languages shape our understanding of time and space, how the stories of his childhood in Nigeria inform his tongue, the dilemma of writing something important, and much more. Enjoy the lil bit of extra VS in this jumbo-sized episode!
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May 5, 2020 • 34min
You vs. the Prompts
Y’all are some good-ass writers! When we put out the call for poems in response to our prompts, we didn’t know we were going to get such a wonderful collection of pieces from you beautiful listeners. We couldn’t include them all in Episode 6, so we put together a special listener-only episode full of your work. Enjoy what your podpeople have created!
Listener poems in this episode:
“Untitled poem for the apocalypse” by Angelina Mazza
“What we need right now” by Anneka Hooft
“Independence Song” by Belinda Munyeza
“Hell’s Kitchen” by Bobby Larson
“Taxidermied Peacock” by Bri Marino
“Dispensed With” by Ciel
“A Reminder From This World” by Haru Matsuura
“Untitled” by Irene Vazquez
“The Gathering” by Isobel Rutherford
“A poem by a half-finished painting in my living room” by Jake Pruitt
“Girl in Isolation” by Jireh Deng
“How many different shades of blue” by Latifa Akay
“The Coffee Table Speaks During Quarantine” by Mehrnoosh Torbatnejad
“april, 2020” by Mina Yu
“My imagination decides the size of my fear” by Nicole Arocho Hernandez
“The Analog Who Broke the Camel’s Lap-top” by Carlos Pittella
“Voicemail No. 47” by Quentin Felton
“The Stovetop Misses Talking Shit” by Raji Ganesan
“Invisible Speaker - Garden Mouse” by Oluwaseun Olayiwola
“In the World Right Now” by Tiffany Wong-Jones
“Instructions for a Contemporary Pastoral” by torrin a. greathouse
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May 5, 2020 • 52min
Franny and Danez vs. the Mailbag
On this #VSfromHome episode, Danez and Franny dip into a chock-full mailbag full of your wonderful questions! Plus, we hear seven poems that listeners wrote and submitted in response to the prompts that Danez and Franny shared two episodes ago. Want more poems? Then check out the special episode released alongside this one, which features a cornucopia of listener-submitted poems that Franny and Danez selected.
Listener poems in this episode:
“On the Street Marked ‘Dead End’” by Christopher Crowder
“Hold Me by the Stem” by Dante Clark
“The Duvet Whispers to the Sex Swing” by Nova Cyprus Black
“Things I Didn’t Know I Loved” by Fatima Malik
“Untitled” by Simon Crow
“What my dresser misses” by Lindsay Stewart
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Apr 21, 2020 • 1h 6min
Tara Betts vs. the Mask
Tara Betts is on a mission to be herself. The poet, editor, and professor comes through to talk about celebrating your people, her relationship with wearing the mask of respectability, the economic challenges of working as a poet, and much more.
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