

VS
Poetry Foundation
The VS podcast is a bi-weekly series where poets confront the ideas that move them. Hosted by poets Ajanaé Dawkins and Brittany Rogers, produced by Cin Pim/Ombie Productions, and presented by the Poetry Foundation.
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Dec 10, 2019 • 1h 2min
VS Live with Patricia Smith at Chicago Humanities Festival
Season 3 of VS goes out with a bang! Franny and Danez take the stage as part of the Chicago Humanities Festival with the true gawd of this poetry world Patricia Smith. They talk about the most bone-chilling prompt ever, discuss form as a way to invite readers into the room, and finally settle the page vs. stage question once and for all.
VS will return in early 2020! In the meantime, jump into the archives and enjoy three seasons of amazing conversations.
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Nov 26, 2019 • 51min
Beyza Ozer vs. Taking Time
Beyza Ozer brings love into the room and into their gorgeous poems on this episode, the penultimate episode of Season 3! The squad talks about taking time away from poems until they feel urgent and necessary again, writing love poems, Katya from Drag Race as muse and inspiration, and much more.
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Nov 12, 2019 • 1h 7min
Xandria Phillips vs. Digging vs. Running
Franny and Danez dig real damn deep with Xandria Phillips. They discuss their collection Hull, learning how to write and revise with beginners’ eyes, painting and color theory, and much more. This one is a deep dive in the best possible way.
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Oct 29, 2019 • 54min
VS Live at the Asian American Literature Festival with Cathy Linh Che, Joseph Legaspi, and Sarah Gambito
Live from the Asian American Literature Festival, it’s VS! Danez and Franny talk with Cathy Linh Che, Joseph Legaspi, and Sarah Gambito about the remarkable work they’ve done building and maintaining Kundiman. Plus we hear some beautiful poems by all three guests, and some truly excellent shade is thrown.
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Oct 15, 2019 • 40min
Wo Chan vs. Drag
If hearing the brilliant Wo Chan talk with Danez and Franny about the mystical ritual of drag isn’t enough for you, maybe the spoiler alert that this episode is the first in VS history to need a crying break for all participants will get you to push that play button. Wo talks about the similarities of drag and poetry, the extreme loneliness of a childhood spent at Table 4a, and much more. Recorded at the Smithsonian Asian American Literature Festival!
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Oct 1, 2019 • 54min
Cathy Park Hong vs. Triumph
Cathy Park Hong has some thoughts for you, and some thoughts on how best to share them. The poet and essayist talks about her newest essay collection Minor Feelings, waking people up from the American Dream, practicing poetry in the real world, and more. Recorded at the Smithsonian Asian American Poetry Festival in DC–please excuse the “on-location” audio!
In this episode, we incorrectly gendered brilliant poet CA Conrad. We apologize for the mistake, and encourage you to check out their work here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/c-a-conrad.
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Sep 17, 2019 • 49min
Yanyi vs. the Personal
Recorded at the Asian American Literature Festival in DC, Danez and Franny get a glimpse inside the pages and brain of wonderful poet and human Yanyi. They talk bringing their thoughts to the page, the magic of a prose poem, clarity and directness, and more!
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Sep 3, 2019 • 47min
VS x Poetry Magazine Podcast Live in Portland with Eloisa Amezcua and Brenda Shaughnessy!
Listen in on a very special LIVE VS x Poetry Magazine Podcast crossover episode, live from Portland, Oregon! Danez and Franny are joined by Lindsay Garbutt, the cohost of the Poetry Magazine Podcast, and have a blast talking with poets Eloisa Amezcua and Brenda Shaughnessy. Subscribe to the Poetry Magazine podcast today for more poetic flames, glam, and goodness!
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Aug 20, 2019 • 57min
Ilya Kaminsky vs. The Republic
Ilya Kaminsky can weave beautiful sentences out of thin air, then build a narrative tapestry from them that is unlike any story you’ve ever read. The author of Dancing in Odessa and new book Deaf Republic talks with Danez and Franny about how narrative can help when poetics are limited, poets from around the world we should be reading, writing between countries as a refugee, and more.
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Aug 6, 2019 • 1h 3min
Diana Khoi Nguyen vs. Silence
Diana Khoi Nguyen is tackling silence. The poet and multimedia artist talks with Danez and Franny about writing into the spaces left by her late brother, splicing family videos, teaching MBA students to codeswitch, and interviewing the Vietnamese diaspora across generations. Plus, a very existential This vs. That, and a FANTASTIC pun to end the show.
Also–VERY IMPORTANTLY–follow her dog on IG at https://www.instagram.com/waitingforbeckett/.
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