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Aug 2, 2023 • 32min

A Product Manager’s POV on Building an App - Reut Lazo (Akili)

In this episode, app marketers will learn about a product manager’s perspective on the process of building an app product: how to prioritize various requests for product features, and the keys to fostering excellent collaboration and communication among all stakeholders throughout the journey. Reut Lazo is the Senior Product Manager at Akili, an app to help kids with ADHD. Akili is the first FDA-authorized prescription video game treatment for ADHD. Reut began her career as a product manager at Meta Co., an augmented reality headset company, before moving on to become a product manager at IMVU. 
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Jul 19, 2023 • 30min

The Power of Deep Linking in Apps - Amanda Vandiver (Branch)

Amanda Vandiver is the Senior Product Marketing Manager at Branch, a mobile attribution provider. In this episode, Amanda explains the importance of deep linking for user experience, measurement, and attribution in this post-IDFA era. She also discusses retention strategies that mobile marketers can leverage across owned and earned channels. 
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Jul 5, 2023 • 29min

Shifting the Mobile Marketer’s Mindset on Measurement - John Koetsier (Sparkplug9)

Today’s guest says IDFA only ever gave mobile marketers the illusion of certainty. In this episode, John Koetsier, the CEO of Sparkplug9, discusses how to use the measurement tools available today, like SKAN, to arrive at what he calls “truthy,” or within the parameters of an accurate perception of reality. John encourages marketers to move on from the past and embrace the reality that’s always existed: Mobile measurement techniques aren’t always perfect.John Koetsier also writes for Forbes about technology, including mobile, AR/VR/MR, IoT, AI, and robotics, and he hosts the TechFirst Podcast. Sparkplug9 is a business consultancy that helps tech startups win via data, insights, branding, and attention.  
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Jun 21, 2023 • 39min

The Future of Privacy-Safe Advertising on Android - Amit Varia (Google), Niv Klein (AppsFlyer), Pan Katsukis (Remerge)

In this episode, you’ll hear the latest news about Google’s Privacy Sandbox on Android –  straight from the source. Pan Katsukis, the co-founder and CEO of Remerge, sits down with Amit Varia, Director of Product Management at Google, and Niv Klein, Product Team Lead at AppsFlyer, to unpack how the Privacy Sandbox will change the future of mobile advertising on Android. Find out how attribution, retargeting, and user acquisition can be done with the Protected Audience API, learn how it limits the sharing of user data with third parties, and find out how it operates without cross-app identifiers like advertising IDs. You’ll also get advice on what app businesses can do to prepare for the upcoming changes, why this is happening now, and what opportunities are to be expected from the privacy-safe future of advertising.Questions Amit and Niv Answered in this Episode:What is Google’s Privacy Sandbox?Why is this shift happening now?Do you see other advantages to the new framework compared to where we are right now?How will Google advertising IDs change?How are attribution and retargeting being done in the Protected Audience API environment?How can we get everyone in the app ecosystem onboard?Is there anything app developers should be doing right now?What is the thinking behind the timeline to launch Android Privacy Sandbox?What is the vision of what app advertising will look like in five years?Timestamp:3:05 What is Android Privacy Sandbox?4:25 Why the shift in advertising privacy8:15 Current use of Google advertising IDs11:21 Protected Audience API (formerly Fledge)14:22 How will attribution be done17:09 Changes in retargeting mechanisms18:55 Changes in user acquisition20:40 TEEs: Trusted Execution Environments23:02 SDK run time25:10 Getting the app industry on board33:34 Steps app developers can take now36:11 Preparing for the release of Android Privacy Sandbox38:52 The vision of privacy-safe advertisingQuotes:(4:00-4:11) Amit Varia: “I’d love for everyone to think of these technologies as building blocks that app developers and ad tech companies can use to build their private advertising solutions.”(4:52-5:05) Amit Varia: “Users are becoming more aware of how valuable their own data is, how it’s being collected, and how it’s being used. As a result, we’re seeing people demand more transparency and control over their data, especially when it comes to online advertising.”(14:45-15:23) Niv Klein: “Generally speaking, the main move in attribution is from device-level reporting to aggregated reports. So, a bit similar to what we experienced in iOS, but the difference is that we’ll have a designated attribution API on the Android Privacy Sandbox that will allow for both aggregated reports—according to very flexible aggregation data levels—and event-level reports to communicate events at the click ID to the partner ad networks.” Mentioned in this Episode:Amit Varia’s LinkedInNiv Klein’s LinkedInPan Katsukis’s LinkedInResource: developer.android.com
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Jun 7, 2023 • 34min

Why Are Next Billion User Markets Important for Your App? - Ludovic Thevelin (Google)

Ludovic Thevelin advises app advertisers on their international growth strategies at Google. In this episode, host Maria Lannon talks to Ludovic about go-to-market considerations for different verticals, like gaming and fintech, how to make strategic decisions on international growth, today’s most promising untapped markets, and the LTV opportunities of, what Google calls, Next Billion User Markets.  Ludovic started working with Google eight years ago at their European headquarters in Dublin before moving to New York City and joining the international growth team five years ago.Questions Ludovic Answered in this Episode:As far as apps that you’re advising, is there a specific vertical that you’re working on?What types of mobile games expand the best? What’s the most challenging part of localizing apps?How do KPIs differ for each market?Can you give an example of when a plan for expansion didn’t work out?Do you see success in specific verticals?How do we think differently about LTV in emerging markets?What market should apps start thinking about?Timestamp:1:29 Ludovic’s role at Google3:55 Scaling gaming apps internationally8:47 Making strategic decisions on regions10:11 Considerations for emerging markets11:01 When international growth strategies don’t work out14:21 Growing fintech apps17:03 LTV opportunities in emerging markets21:22 Untapped markets & verticals27:30 Creative excellence32:31 ResourcesQuotes:(5:03-5:21) “A lot of advertisers think they’re restricted by not having a different language outside of English, but we use something called an English Proficiency Index. If you Google that, there are a lot of external tools, free, that you can use to rank or rate markets based on how comfortable users are converting in English, and those are often markets that surprise your advertisers.”(5:29-5:50) “I think the most challenging part is the culturalization piece. So when we talk about localization, you can think of it as a spectrum. The first step in that translation piece. And yes, now you can address a local audience in a local language; but what we find is U.S. advertisers are copy-pasting what they’re doing in the U.S. when they go to Germany and when they go to Japan and when they go to LATAM, but the users are very different.”Mentioned in this Episode:Ludovic Thevelin’s LinkedInGoogle’s Market FinderGoogle’s Next Billion UsersGoogle’s Mobile Insight Report
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May 24, 2023 • 29min

Top 5 Mistakes Startups Make When Marketing New Apps - David Jumper (Hyper DP)

Today’s guest is an expert in helping startups successfully launch new mobile apps and web products. In this episode, David Jumper, a managing partner at Hyper Digital Partners, shares the top five most common mistakes he sees startups making in their performance marketing, and offers his advice on what to do instead. David Jumper is a managing partner at Hyper Digital Partners. He’s a growth expert with over 15 years of experience in scaling apps and web products across the gaming, entertainment, and e-commerce verticals. Questions David Answered in this Episode:What does Hyper DP do and do you work with specific verticals?What are some of the key mistakes startups make when launching and marketing their apps?What advice would you offer about MMP integration to ensure reliable tracking?What is your point-of-view on how startups should or shouldn’t be thinking about creatives when it comes to growth marketing?What advice do you have on optimization and the funnel for new apps?What do you have to say about budgeting when it comes to running campaigns?Timestamp:1:22 David’s background and Hyper DP8:51 Attribution: sacrificing measurement12:00 Caution when integrating with MMPs14:45 Making creative an afterthought18:30 Optimization errors and bidding down the funnel22:40 Spreading the budget too thinQuotes:(16:27-16:40) “Carve out a budget to make your creatives and set yourself up to make iterations of these in the future. If you don’t make this investment, maybe you’ll get lucky but more often than not, you won’t.”Mentioned in this Episode:David Jumper’s LinkedInHyper DPFrom Hyper DP’s blog, “Top 5 Mistakes Startups Make When Launching Performance Marketing”
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May 10, 2023 • 26min

Engagement & Retention Strategies from the Most Downloaded Apps (Part 2)

In the second part of this two-part episode, Tara Kirkpatrick, a Mobile Trends Analyst at Apptopia, breaks down popular engagement and retention strategies used by the most downloaded apps of 2022, according to Apptopia’s report “How App Download Leaders Are Winning” (released Feb. 2023). Learn how apps got ahead of their competitors with loyalty schemes, reward programs, and retention “core loops.”Apptopia is a performance intelligence platform that generates insights across mobile apps and connected devices. Every year, they put out the app download leader charts for app store categories and sub-categories. This year they took a closer look at the strategies apps are using to increase their downloads and broke them down in a report into three areas: acquisition, engagement, and retention.Questions Tara Answered in this Episode:What can apps do once they get users to download their apps to ensure that they remain engaged?Tell us more about the retention portion of the report.Timestamp:28:23 Winning strategies for app loyalty and rewards programs34:00 Clear progress tracking and custom rewards37:52 Ushering users into a “Core Loop”Quotes:(31:26-31:55) “Earning a reward is actually a rewarding experience for humans because we’re innately geared towards progress. If you can incentivize action and make that experience fun, or use a bit of scarcity so that the experience becomes a little bit more exciting, then that’s where you’re motivating the acquisition and activation piece  – and then long-term engagement.”(47:47-47:55) “Gaming sets this high bar for the mechanisms of mobile that if you are an app in any category you can look to gaming for inspiration.”Mentioned in this Episode:Tara Kirkpatrick’s LinkedInApptopiaApptopia Report: “How App Download Leaders Are Winning”
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Apr 26, 2023 • 28min

Acquisition Strategies from the Most Downloaded Apps (Part 1) - Tara Kirkpatrick (Apptopia)

In the first of this two-part episode, Tara Kirkpatrick, a Mobile Trends Analyst at Apptopia, breaks down popular acquisition strategies used by the most downloaded apps of 2022, according to Apptopia’s report “How App Download Leaders Are Winning” (released Feb. 2023). Learn how apps get ahead of their competitors with app store search ads and curating the right ad network mix. Apptopia is a performance intelligence platform that generates insights across mobile apps and connected devices. Every year, they put out the app download leader charts for app store categories and sub-categories. This year they took a closer look at the strategies apps are using to increase their downloads and broke them down in a report across three areas: acquisition, engagement, and retention. Questions Tara Answered in this Episode:What does it mean when you’re bidding on branded key terms versus non-branded key terms? What would that be from a user experience standpoint?Timestamp:1:15 Apptopia & Tara’s role10:42 How app download leaders are winning14:08 App store search ads: Home Depot vs Lowes18:33 Bidding on branded vs non-branded key terms in app store20:53 Curating the right ad network mix25:11 Temu case study: DoubleClick over Meta Ad NetworkQuotes:(7:28-7:42) “We joked 10 years ago that there’s an app for that because there were so many apps, but in fact now you need an app for most businesses just to have that need for an environment that you control with your customers and that consistent customer experience.”Mentioned in this Episode:Tara Kirkpatrick’s LinkedInApptopiaApptopia Report: “How App Download Leaders Are Winning”
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Apr 12, 2023 • 28min

How to Market and Grow EdTech App Products - Lomit Patel (Tynker)

Lomit Patel returns to the Apptivate podcast to share his experiences marketing Tynker, an Edtech product that teaches kids how to code. The platform reaches 60 million users in over 150 countries. In his new role as Chief Growth officer, Lomit discusses how the team got kids excited about coding and engaged teachers and parents to use the app.Lomit Patel has worked in growth at startups for over 20 years. He is the author of Lean AI and a Forbes Business Development Council Member. He’s worked at a number of startups that have gone on to become an IPO, like Roku, or that have been acquired by other companies, like Texture.Questions Lomit Answered in this Episode:How is Tynker and what do you do there?How did Tynker acquire its 60 million users?Does your approach to growth stay consistent from company to company?Do you see investing in branding initiatives as a more valuable medium when remarketing isn’t possible?Where do you see AI going in the near future, specifically as it relates to growth marketing?Timestamp:1:37 Lomit’s background4:00 Tynker & Lomit’s role7:00 How Tynker reached 60 million users10:50 Genesis of their Mindcraft angle14:15 Changing the growth playbook for kid-oriented products19:29 Marketing to mass audiences23:40 How we’re evolving with AIQuotes:(2:16-2:26) “As I’ve spent more and more time learning about growth, you really come to realize the value of data and how important that is to make different decisions.”(11:12-11:19) “It’s really hard to market directly to kids, so you have to figure out how you can influence kids to really learn about your product?”(17:04-17:18) “You can’t really remarket to kids. So the big part comes down to how do you use your data and how do you create better personalized experiences, how do you use in-app messaging to really be contextually relevant to what the user’s looking for?”Mentioned in this Episode:Lomit Patel’s LinkedInTynkerLean AI by Lomit Patel
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Mar 29, 2023 • 27min

Building the Pipeline for More Women Leaders in Tech - Jennie Lewis (Airship)

Jennie Lewis is the Senior Manager of Customer Insights at Airship. In this Women In Mobile episode, Jennie shares her positive approach and experience to navigating male-dominated tech fields, such as solutions architecture. She and the host, Maria Lannon, discuss how to build a more diverse pipeline of executive leadership for the future. At Airship, Jennie helps brands understand the economic impact and quantitative results of their mobile app strategies. Airship is known for its push notification and in-app messaging solutions and for mastering mobile app experiences to engage customers and win their loyalty. Previously, Jennie worked at Epsilon in custom email development and CrowdTwist in solutions architecture.

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