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Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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Aug 24, 2020 • 56min
#070 Susie O'Neill
Susie O'Neill is one of Australia's most successful Olympians. Madame Butterfly won a Bronze (Barcelona), Gold (Atlanta), and Silver (Sydney) over 3 Olympics in the 200 Fly. She also won the 200 Free in Sydney -- a race that can be a bit overshadowed in a career filled with big races. She stood on the podium at 3 different Olympics 8 separate times.
Nowadays you can hear her on the radio with Ash, Kip, & Luttsy.
Brett and Susie talk about...
Still waking up at 4 AM to go to swim training. She just loves being in the water.
How she made international news a few months ago after publicly watching the 200 Fly Final and breaking down with emotion in tears.
Swimming with Mr. Wakefield.
When did swimming stop being fun?
Originally was a backstroker. In 1988 she switched to butterfly. She was 14 years old.
"I always wanted to be a sprinter..just like everyone." - Susie O'Neill
Mr. Wakefield sat me down and told me I had a chance to make the Australian Team in the 200 Fly and that's when I swam my first 200 Fly.
Having panic attacks as a young swimmer.
Barcelona 1992 Olympics: looking around in the 200 Fly.
Deciding to change coaches. Telling Mr. Wakefield.
Scott Volkers.
Never swam any long distance butterfly in practice. The focus was to never let her stroke technique get bad. Longer butterfly sets were always done with short fins.
Was a tremendous trainer.
2:05.91 the only time she can still remember.
Breaking the World Record at Australian Trials. 2:05.81
Misty Hyman.
Winning the 200 Free in Sydney and not quite getting to enjoy the moment.\
What message can you give to young woman?
Ashley Callus stealing a strawberry jam.
Positive self talk. Believing in yourself.
What's coming up in the future?
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Aug 21, 2020 • 59min
#069 Mallory Comerford
Mallory Comerford is a 14 time World Champion and intricate part of Team USA's relay teams. An individual NCAA Champion for the University of Louisville, her attention is now focused on doing the same in Tokyo. Last year Mallory swam in the 1st season of the International Swimming League for the Cali Condors.
Dealing with COVID. Training in quarantine.
There are 5 in the pro group at Louisville.
Who is Mallory Comerford? Grew up in a big family in a small town.
The college recruiting process and not limiting yourself.
Listening and learning while at U of L.
"I like to be really positive. I like to smile...I hate bad days." - Mallory Comerfory
12x75's 25 under 25 over 25 under @ 1:10 with Zach Harting
What weakness have you turned into a strength? Turns.
How do you improve your turns?
Getting strong in the weight room.
How many pullups can you do?
Iron Cardinal Week
"I really hate to lose."
Nutrition. Cooking in quarantine. Learning to like seafood.
Steph Juncker and Arthur Albiero
200 Free SCY vs. 200 Free LCM
Training sets you do for the 200 and the 100.
What she focuses on in practice when training for the 100 Free.
Mallory's Most Memorable Set..
20x150's
YOU CAN BE OLYMPIC CHAMPION!
Sponsored by Arena and Snow Monkey.
And much, much more!
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Aug 19, 2020 • 1h 11min
#068 Dan Kowalski
Dan Kowalski is one of those legendary distance swimmers hailing from Australia. He showed tremendous range at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics by winning Silver in the 1500 and Bronze in both the 200 and 400 Freestyles.
They discuss...
Coming from a small team in Adelaide.
Kids are specializing earlier now. How did it start for you?Immigrating from Singapore.
“I loved it.” Referring you swimming as a kid. Loved the discipline.
Getting swimming world magazine as a kid.
1984 Olympics: “How the hell do I get to this thing?”
What type of age group coach did you have? David James. Mapped from Dave Salo. Great teammates, close knit group. Disciple and responsibility.
“Holy shit this guy can swim!” - Brett on Dan
Being a relay swimmer that wins a Gold medal at the Olympics. “Always on the outside looking in.”
A deep dive into his mental prep and his mental state as a competitor throughout Trials and Olympics in 1996:
1996 Australian Trials. Kieren Perkins misses out on the 400 and the 200. “What’s it feel like to be the most hated person in Australia?”
Internalizing and trying to deal with it on his own.
When and where are these thoughts coming from? Training camp. Putting the cart before the horse.
Had a strict plan and couldn’t stick to it.
Internal chat.
The 400 Free in Atlanta. Bad warmups.
“The mental side of it can have a physical side effect!” - Brett
Couldn’t turn it off.
"Just talking about it changes thing. Recognizing it. Identifying it." - Brett
The 1500 in Atlanta. Kieren is in Lane 8. "Australia vs. the World."
What's the self talk that's going on? "I don't want to be there." The dream turned into a nightmare.
Kieren taught me how to swim the 1500. We break the backs of our competitors from the beginning.
Dan Kowalski's Most Memorable Swim Sets:
10x400's on 4:20 holding under 4:05
1x500 under 5:05
1x1000 under 10:10
1x1500 under 15:15
And much, much more!
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Aug 17, 2020 • 1h 2min
#067 Kathleen Baker
Kathleen Baker won Gold (leading off the 4x100 Medley Relay) and Silver (100 Back) in Rio but her favorite event, by far, is the 200 IM.
Brett and Kathleen talk about...
Currently living just two blocks from the beach in sunny San Diego, California.
Growing up in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
Making the decision to move to Charlotte to train with SwimMAC at 14 years old.
Being born super competitive.
Training with Team Elite.
Katie Meili. Camille Adams.
Being diagnosed with Crohn's disease and how she has managed it throughout her career.
Choosing the University of California.
Developing all four strokes and focusing more on the 200 IM. Breaststroke has become her 2nd best stroke at age 23 through a lot of technique work, changing that muscle memory and a lot of threshold IM sets. 100's Fly/Back, Back/Breast, Breast/Free.
Making the US Olympic Team in the 100 Back. Walk me through Prelims, Semi Finals, and Finals.
Tapering for Olympic Trials and then again for the Olympics. Two days after making the US Olympic Team in the 100 Backstroke, she was back in practice doing 8x250's Backstroke Long Course.
Having the time of her life at the 2016 Rio Olympics. Winning the 100 Back wasn't even a goal! Drops another half a second from OT's to Prelims of the Olympics.
What happens in the ready room at the Olympic Games? Katinka Hosszú.
Positive affirmations.
Swimming on relays.
Transitioning to the 200 Back in 2017. Breaking her ribs in 2019.
Loving lifting weights and do drylands.
And much, much more!
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Aug 14, 2020 • 55min
#066 Femke Heemskerk
Brett welcomes the Netherlands' Femke Heemskerk!
A veteran sprinter (she will be 32 next month), Femke has topped the podium at every level. She has been European, World, and Olympic Champion. Plus, she's got an International Swimming League Championship under her belt as part of Energy Standard.
Femke and Brett talk about...
Swimming for Marcel Wouda in Eindhoven.
Getting Brett's sunglasses after she went a PB in Paris.
How'd you get into swimming?
Inge de Bruijn and the impact she had on her as a little girl.
Feeling insecure and not so confident as a young lady and what she has done over her career to help with her mental strength.
Parking your thoughts.
How have you been able to been around for so long?
What are your strengths?
Which do you prefer: the 50, 100, or 200?
6x a week Drylands and Shoulder Circuit.
Race analysis after racing.
Recovery.
What do you love about relays?
Looking ahead to the Tokyo 2020 Olympics.
And much more!
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Aug 12, 2020 • 56min
#065 Arianna Vanderpool-Wallace
Arianna is a 3x Olympian from the Bahamas.
In 2011, as a Junior at Auburn University, she won NCAA titles in both the 50 and 100 Freestyle.
She finished 8th in the 50 Free and 10th in the 100 Free at the 2012 London Olympics.
The two Auburn sprint champions discuss...
"If you believe happiness, you achieve happiness." - Arianna Vanderpool-Wallace
Being the Southeast Marketing Rep for Arena and not traveling.
Getting more women on the podcast!
Why do Bahamians, who live on an island, don't learn to swim? Jeremy Knowles and his parents are working on changing this.
How did you get into swimming?
How did you get to Bolles?
You're going to school in Alabama? "I never once had a bad experience in Auburn."
"They say when you take your recruiting trip you just know."
Her career at Auburn.
Breaking Natalie Coughlin's NCAA Record in the 100 Free.
First woman under 47.
Learning to be strong in the weight room was a game changer.
Lifting hard and heavy.
And much, much more!
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Aug 10, 2020 • 1h 4min
#064 Nathan Adrian
Olympic Champion. Cal Golden Bear. Small business owner.
NATHAN ADRIAN!
They speak about...
Purchasing Ann Curtis' swim school with former teammate and friend Will Copeland.
How have you stayed so good for so long?
Talk to me about Mike Bottom.
Going faster throughout Prelims - Semi Finals - Finals.
Brett worrying about Pieter van den Hoogenband.
Physical effort vs. Emotional effort.
The Mind Body Connection.
Beating James Magnussen in the 100 Free.
Working on coming back in 24 low.
The Australian media.
Gennadi Touretski telling Alexander Popov that he needed to focus on being consistent -- we've reached our peak speed so now we maintain.
Telling Cesar Cielo that same thing -- he did not want to hear that.
Why have you stayed with Dave Durden for so long?
"We're going to learn from that and be better because of it." - Dave Durden
The importance of recovery. COVID Recovery.
His friendship with Matt Grevers.
How does Team USA have so much deck presence and swagger?
The International Swimming League. Skins Races.
Going from Olympic Champion to where you are today.
Caeleb Dressel.
Control your controllables.
Speedo. Ralph Lauren.
And much more!
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Aug 7, 2020 • 1h
#063 Richard Scarce
Brett welcomes Coach Richard Scarce, Head Coach at Bond University and one of Australia's legendary coaches.
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Aug 5, 2020 • 57min
#062 Luca Dotto
Today Brett welcomes Italian Olympian and sprint freestyler, LUCA DOTTO!
Luca is the Italian record holder in the 100 Free and first one under 48. He won Silver at 2011 World Champs in the 50 Free and is a member of the Aqua Centurions of the International Swimming League.
They discuss...
Corona virus. Getting back in the water. Running his own business (Luca Dotto Swim Academy).
The unfortunate passing of his far too young mother.
Why don't Italians come to America to swim in college?
Being a model for Armani.
Breaking 48 in the 100 Free. Getting 2nd in Shanghai in the 50 Free.
Believing in yourself. Do you have a champion's mentality?
Looking ahead to the Tokyo Olympics. Having young guys coming up and pushing him.
And much, much more!
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Luca Dotto Swim Academy
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Aug 3, 2020 • 1h 25min
#060 James Magnussen
The fastest man ever in a textile: JAMES MAGNUSSEN!
They discuss...
Starting a gym equipment business during COVID-19. Check out Habitual Equipment on Instagram. Now available in Australia!
Grew up in a small country town 5 hours north of Sydney where the pool was closed during the winter.
Meeting with Coach Brant Best in 2009. "I'm very confident I will get you to an Olympic Games."
"The confidence he gave me in that meeting..." - James Magnussen
What did Brant do best? Everything we did had a purpose.
"WALK OUT RUN HOME"
Super suits.
Having an outstanding network of people helping him reach his highest potential.
Eamon Sullivan.
Winning his National Championship in the 100 Free going 48.2.
Do you have a chip on your shoulder?
Going from being the hunter to being the hunted.
"The bread and butter set for me for training for my 100 Freestyle was..."
44-48 stroke rate. Breathing 2's. Soft hands. 7/10 RPE.
Swimming consistently. Same # of strokes, same # of breathes. The performance piece took care of itself.
Pre-Fatigue stuff for back end. 3x15's Max. Swim through the 50. Straight into a fast 50.
We'd swim really fast at least 4x a week. The other 3 would be really slow, really recovery.
Are we swimming fast coming out of quarantine because we are recovered?
2011 World Championships in Shanghai.
Out of the water for 6 weeks prior with pneumonia.
Winning the 100 Free.
Winning the 4x100 Free Relay.
Preparing for the 2012 London Olympics.
And so much more!
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Online: Habitual Equipment
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