Inside with Brett Hawke

Bob Bowman is the Head Coach of Arizona State University's Swimming & Diving Team. Coach Bowman served as Team USA's Head Olympic Swimming Coach for the 2016 Rio Games. And, as you already know, coached the greatest Olympian of all time, Michael Phelps, throughout his entire illustrious career. Now, in retirement, Michael cooks Bob dinner several nights a week while he gets to play with the kids. Brett and Bob begin with corona virus and Coach Bowman's decision to redshirt his entire team.  Several years ago Bob gave a speech entitled, "The Characteristics of Champions". In this episode, Brett turns the tables to find out how these characteristics relate to him, Bob Bowman, as a champion swim coach. "How do I become the next Bob Bowman?" - Brett Hawke Brett and Bob go through each of his champion characteristics: Champions have a clear plan for success in achieving their goals. Champions produce normal and predictable performances in very  abnormal and unpredictable environments. Champions rehearse success on a daily basis -- physically, mentally, and emotionally. Champions value the process of success more than any particular outcome. Champions have a dream. Champions have a passion for pursuing their vision of success that will overcome obstacles, get them through the tough times, and carry them to spectacular performances throughout their career. Enjoy! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh        Connect | Bob Bowman, ASU On Twitter @coach_bowman Produced by: SWIMNERD Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Zane Waddell, from South Africa, is the reigning World Champion in the Men's 50 Backstroke. COVID-19 messed up his last opportunity to break 20 seconds in the 50 SCY Backstroke. Zane, still training at the University of Alabama, is now preparing for Tokyo 2021 and the 2nd season of the ISL as a member of the LA Current.  Brett and Zane discuss... Being recruited and coming over to swim in college. Winning the 50 Back in Gwangju last year to become World Champion.  You didn't come to college as a backstroker -- what happened?  All about Backstroke technique. Season 2 of the International Swimming League. Getting to work with Ryan Murphy. And much more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh     Connect | Zane Waddell On Instagram @zanemako On Twitter @zanewaddell Produced by: SWIMNERD Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Jodie Henry is a 3x Olympic Champion. She won the 100 Free at the 2004 Athens Olympics and was part of both of Australia's winning relays (4x100 Free and Medley). She was inducted into the International Swimming Hall of Fame in 2015. She learned how to swim at a young age and just progressed from there. It got serious at Chandler Swimming Club. Eventually moved to be coached with Shannon Rollason and his brother, Nathan. In 2000, at just 16 years old, missed making the Sydney Olympic team by just .02. Instead, got to enjoy a home Olympics, learn and watch. Jodie suggests so much of her swimming memories are all melted together.  Being a very anxious person and being able to shut it down behind the blocks. Shannon gave her a specific plan to wave and smile. 2003 World Championships in Barcelona. Breaking the 100 Free World Record in Semi Finals at the 2004 Athens Olympics . She went 53.52. Shannon calms her down, gets her mind right to prepare to go out and race and win. She really pulled away from the field over the last 25 meters. Training back end speed.  Jodie Henry's Favorite Swim Set:  4x 8x50's @ :35 holding :30 or under 1x200 recovery She did this set all the time by herself! The Relays. Her relationship with Alice Mills (now Tait) and Libby Lenton (now Trickett). At one point in time the 3 fastest girls in the world in the 100 Free were all in Brisbane. Training like a sprinter. Jodie has 3 children. They all swim. Her husband won a couple AFL Championships.  And much more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh     Connect | Jodie Henry Produced by: SWIMNERD Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Fred Bousquet was the first man to break 19 in the 50 SCY Free as well as the first man to break 21 in the 50 LCM Free. He was, without a doubt, one of the greatest relay swimmers in the history of the sport. While the individual Olympic medal fell just outside his grasp, he was the epitome of a team player. He swam for his team and for his country, not for himself.  Brett and Fred begin the conversation with breaking the 19 second barrier in the 50 Free at NCAA's.  Fred swam 3rd on the 4x100 Free Relay at the Beijing Olympics, giving Alain Bernard .8 tenths of a second lead over Jason Lezak and Team USA. We did a mash up of Lezak (Episode #087) and Fred about the greatest relay of all time. You can watch it here.  Brett and Fred have a long, personal history of working together. They talk about the good times and the bad. Brett is open and vulnerable to criticism. They discuss the 20.94 performance at French Championships. Brett describes Fred as having the most beautiful freestyle there ever was. Nobody created power and and speed quite like him.  Enjoy! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh   Connect | Fred Bousquet On Instagram @fredbousquetswim On Twitter @BousquetFred Produced by: SWIMNERD Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Jason Lezak got kicked off the UCSB swim team in the middle of his Junior year. A decade later he split 46.0 on the back of Team USA's 4x100 Free Relay at the 2008 Beijing Olympics to reel in France's Alain Bernard.  It is the Olympic performance of all Olympic performances. The swim of all swims. His last name literally become a verb.  Jason is now the GM of the Cali Condors. Brett and Jason talk about... How were you so consistent both domestically and internationally for such a long period of time? Why did you go to UC Santa Barbara? Didn't make NCAA's as a Sophomore, got kicked off the team, and then made Finals as a Junior. Big progression in a short time. Starting doing all the little things right. Sleeping. Eating. SYDNEY Getting beat by the Australians in 2000 in the 4x100 Free Relay and receiving a Silver medal. What regrets do you have on that relay? Def over swam the first 25.  ATHENS What was Athens like for you? "I was looking at that relay for 4 years and all I wanted to do was like I said get on that podium and hear the National Anthem and this time we got the Bronze medal to start the Olympics..." - Jason Lezak Taking it too easy in Prelims and getting 21st in the 100 Free. Swam in the Finals of the 50 Free with Brett. He was in Lane 3, Roland Schoeman was in Lane 4 as top seed, and Brett was in Lane 5. Finishing Athens strong with a Gold medal 4x100 Medley Relay. Gary walking out in the silk robe. What's your recollection from that race?  You had some tension with Gary Hall Jr. didn't you? Tell me about that. Team USA's 4x100 Free Relay from 1999-2004 just couldn't come together. BEIJING Broke the AR at OT's in the 100 Free. Had anchored the relays for years, was very prepared.  Brett was coaching Fred Bousquet at the time. Gives his perspective.  Jason thought he false started. Did you get in the zone? Were you on auto pilot? How did you stay in the game for so long? Nathan Adrian over taking Jason as the top American. Cesar Cielo. "People were telling me to retire after every Olympics." - Jason Lezak Coaching himself starting in 2006. He swam until he was 36. Being the GM of the Cali Condors. Australians have pulled out. What's up? Is the ISL sustainable?  And more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh   Connect | Jason Lezak On Instagram @Jason.Lezak On Twitter @JasonLezak Produced by: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

William & Mary is considered one of the most prestigious academic schools in the country. You may have heard of some of their famous alumni... Thomas Jefferson. James Monroe. John Tyler.  America's brightest swimmers don't go to W&M for the scholarships because there are none.  And they certainly don't go for the facilities -- the pool is not worthy of the accomplishments that Tribe Swimming has achieved. They attend W&M because the people that go to W&M are a special kind of people. One could say they are from the same Tribe... Brett welcomes Rich Williams from the W&M Class of '98 on the podcast to help spread the word to SAVE TRIBE SWIMMING! Go to savetribeswimming.com to donate today! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Save Tribe Swimming On Facebook @savetribeswimming On Instagram @savetribeswimming On Twitter @savetribeswim Produced by: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Supported by: Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Jonty Skinner didn't get to swim at the 1976 Olympics because South Africa was banned. But a few weeks after the Olympics ended, he broke Jim Montgomery's world record in the 100 Free by over half a second. Jonty left South Africa to swim for the University of Alabama where he was an NCAA Champion under Don Gambril. Over the next decades he would have several coaching stints at Bama as well as time spent with USA Swimming as the National Team Head Coach and Director of Performance Science and Technology. He was inducted into the ASCA Hall of Fame in 2017. If you've never been to Alabama before...nothing is more important than War Eagle vs. Roll Tide.  The former rival coaches in the great state of Alabama discuss... In 1976, you were not allowed to compete at the Olympics. How'd that feel? South Africa had been banned since 1964. "It didn't bother me that much...I knew growing up it wasn't going to happen." - Jonty Skinner Don Gambril told me I needed a year to adapt to the training. "I was a 2." Being relieved after breaking the world record. What helped me remember was listening to Mel Stewart interview BJ Bedford.  Finding each athlete's motivation. Improving each athlete on a holistic level. Really get to know them.  Creating a seasonal plan and understanding what goes into that. One of the best pieces of advice Brett got as a young coach from David Marsh.  When does the book come out?! Maybe next summer. Zane Waddell calls Jonty a wizard. How do you get wizard status? What are the must haves, the must dos for a swim coach? 1. understand them as a person 2. study them as a swimmer 3. educate them about the sport of swimming I love speed and I love freestyle: so how do we get faster? Can we go 20.0 and 46.0 in the 50 and 100? The evolution of freestyle. Stuck in high elbow. Tech suits came around and blew that out of the water.  Caeleb Dressel. How do you coach an athlete to believe they can beat the unbeatable?  Never met Nick Saban.  And much more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Jonty Skinner On Instagram: @jontyskinner Special Thanks: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

James Guy, World Champion and Olympic medalist from Great Britain, swings in for a chat. They talk about Kosuke Hagino, 200 Free race strategy, and loads of practice sets. Show Notes: Part of the National Center in Bath. Lives with Freya Anderson. Bath is an hour West of London.  Recent coaching change. Why not leave England? Swimming with David McNulty. Growing up going to school and swimming at Millfield with Joel.  6x200's best ave @ 3:00 Next week... 7x200's. Next week... 8x200's...all the way up to 15 and back down. Kosuke Hagino Trains on a Different Level 2015 Kazan World Championships Winning the 200 Free against. Ryan Lochte. Sun Yang. Paul Biedermann. Chad Le Clos. "Do the work for the 4, race the 2." - James Guy 200 Free strategy. Thinking differently like Richard Quick and Ian Thorpe. What do you think of when you think of Adam Peaty.  "I think of him as one of the boys you know, just a normal lad, who, obviously, trains like an absolute tiger." - James Guy  You haven't had a stand out win since 2015. Where have you struggled in the last 5 years? Losing some confidence. "This is not the real James Guy." - James Guy Training with Tom Dean.  What do you do in training for fly? Lots of aerobic/threshold butterfly.  30x50's 4 Fly on @ :35 , 1 Backstroke SCM. "To do things fast, you gotta do things slow." - James Guy Do you ever do 100's fly in practice? All the time. And much more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | James Guy On Instagram: @james.g.guy On Twitter: @jimbob95goon Special Thanks: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Katie McLaughlin is one of USA's top swimmers in the 100 and 200 Fly and Free. She's currently swimming for the LA Current of the International Swimming League. Still training in Berkeley, California where she swam in college. How's the air quality up there due to the fires? What did you get your degree in? What was it like growing up with athletic parents? They wouldn't let me specialize. Katie loves soccer. But she always knew swimming was her true love. She loved the social aspect. "I got to go hang out with my friends every day." - Katie McLaughlin Being relieved at 2013 World Trials after getting 3rd in the 2 Fly. What was it like being one of the top recruits? Why'd you choose Cal? Swam for Bill Rose at Mission Viejo. What was different under Teri McKeever? Advice for high school swimmers getting recruited. How has Teri taught you to be a great teammate? How does she push you? Coaching to be the best racers not the best trainers. Breaking her neck as a Freshman. Why don't you like talking about it? Who got the best out of you on the team? Amy Bilquist. Kathleen Baker. Jenna Campbell. What motivates you? Finding new ways to become the best swimmer I can be. How was year 1 of the ISL swimming for the LA Current? SCM was fun. Heading to Budapest for 6 weeks.  Do you have a love hate relationship with the 2 Fly? Not defining my swimming career around 1 event.  100 Fly and 200 Free What's going on in your head behind the blocks? Talk to me about Jack Roach. Enjoy! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Katie McLaughlin On Instagram: @katiemclaughlin21 On Twitter: @katiemclaugh1in Special Thanks: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Fitter & Faster Swim Camps

Mel Marshall is the Head Coach of the London Roar. Adam Peaty, Luke Greenbank, and now Anna Hopkin swim under Mel's guidance at Loughborough University, where British Swimming houses 1 of its 3 high performance centers.  Give us an update. What is happening right now with your team? "It's just a privilege to be able to go and race." - Mel Marshall Mel thinks 6 weeks of racing is great prep for the Olympics Will know more by Friday, Sept 18. If Australians can't come, they will need to fill their rosters ASAP.  Talk to me about your own swimming career. How has it helped you as a coach? Communicating as a coach. Coaching with masculine traits and feminine traits. In 2004, you were the #1 ranked swimmer in the world going into the Olympics. What happened? Periodizing your positive communication to your athletes. All about Adam Peaty... How do you know when to push an athlete? Spending a lot of informal time with Adam. His technique. How does he not slip water when rating up? Studied a lot about the way Japan was teaching breaststroke. "He was like a sponge." - Mel Marshall What separates him? How do you think becoming a Dad will effect him? Traffic light management. How do you get someone to believe they can go 56? What's the equation for the 100 Breast? "Optimal Details" "How do you build that mental giant into somebody?" - Brett Luke Greenbank. "I've messed this up and I'm going to get it right for you." - Mel Marshall Adam Peaty 50's Set And much more! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Mel Marshall On Instagram: @melmarshallmassive On Twitter: @massivemel Special Thanks: SWIMNERD PACE CLOCKS Fitter & Faster Swim Camps