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Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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Jan 24, 2023 • 43min
#298 Swedish Olympian & World Champion Louise Hansson training in Loughborough
2x Swedish Olympian. NCAA Champion. European Champion. World Champion.
Louise Hansson!
Brett & Louise discuss...
Swedish Coach’s Take On National Swimmers Training Elsewhere
What Does An Olympian Do With Their Free Time?
Louise Hansson Not A Backstroker?
What To Work On For Paris
Owning Femininity, Strength, And A Positive Self-Image
Prioritizing Recovery As A Post-College Athlete
Getting Ready For A Race Day
Sarah Sjostrom's Influence
Front End Speed
Swedish Relays
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Jan 23, 2023 • 37min
Leon Marchand, Suiting Up in Dual Meets (Again), Flanders Cup, Q&A
Brett and Sonny ramble on about swimming. Come join the conversation every Monday morning 8 AM EST.
Arizona State's Leon Marchand is the best swimmer in the world right now.
Cal didn't suit up. Big talk on wearing tech suits in dual meets...again. Bob Bowman a man of his word, sticking to his guns, and having his team suit up and spank the National Champs.
Surely the highlight of the meet was Leon Marchand 400 IM NCAA Record. In a stunning conclusion to the weekend, Marchand broke the NCAA record set by Hugo Gonzalez just last year (3:32.88). Marchand's time was 🔥🔥3:31.84🔥🔥
00:00 Good Morning Nerds!
01:38 ASCA Talks
06:30 Kyle Chalmers 800 Freestyle
08:45 Tomoyuki Matsushita
09:32 Suiting up in dual meets
22:09 Leon Marchand is the best swimmer in the NCAA
23:11 Q&A
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Jan 18, 2023 • 15min
Doc Counsilman The X-Factor in Coaching | ASCA Talk #001
We are proud to announce that we've joined forces with the American Swimming Coaches Association to revive some of the most outstanding conference speeches in the history of our sport. Check out ASCA's upcoming events and clinics after the talk. And don't forget to mark your calendars for the World Clinic in Dallas this year. September 6 through 9th.
First up, Doc Counsilman and his famous talk from Montreal IN 1971 entitled, "The X-Factor". Here is an excerpt from his International Swimming Hall of Fame bio -- don't forget to become a monthly donor to ISHOF to preserve our sport's history!
The ‘X’ Factor
Doc sometimes adopted a folksy way of putting his message across. His talk at the ASCA World Clinic in Montreal in 1971 on “The ‘X’ Factor in Coaching” remains a classic. He spoke about a mythical coach, ‘Frank Zilch’ who, hard as he tried to become successful, lacked the ‘X’ factor.’ Doc explained the ‘X’ factor as the ability to recognize the important things in coaching, and to work on them, and to minimize the unimportant.
“The great coach must have two basic abilities – he must be a good organizer and a good psychologist,” said Doc. “The good organizer will have the large team, will attract the good swimmers from other teams, and develop the Mark Spitzs and Gary Halls of the future. The good psychologist will be able to handle the parent problems, get along with the city council, and be able to communicate successfully with the swimmers – he will have the ‘super’ teams.”
“The good coach today needs only an elementary knowledge of conditioning physiology and stroke mechanics. He does not need these to get the job done. However nothing remains static, and in the future these two areas will become more and more important.”
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Jan 17, 2023 • 1h 3min
#297 Kirsty Coventry, Africa's Most Decorated Olympian Ever
Kirsty Coventry is the most decorated Olympian from Africa ever. She's also the Minister of Sport, Arts and Recreation of Zimbabwe and an IOC Board Member. On top of all that, she runs her own foundation teaching water safety to children in Zimbabwe.
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Jan 16, 2023 • 1h 2min
TYR PSS Knoxville, SC vs LC, Regan vs Kaylee, Q&A
Meagen Nay joins Brett, Sonny, and Nate to talk about this week in swimming.
*TYR Pro Swim Series in Knoxville
* Short course swimming vs. Long course swimming
* Ryan Murphy vs. Hunter Armstrong
* Kaylee McKeown vs. Regan Smith
* Emily Seebohm riding around India on a moped
* Can Katie Ledecky go best times again?
* Simone Manuel Returns
* Henry McFadden wins the 200 Free in a new PB
* Katie Grimes vs. Katie Ledecky 400 IM
* On the pod: Kirsty Coventry!
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INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
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Jan 11, 2023 • 2min
Are the Campbell sisters coming back?
Australian sprint sisters, Cate and Bronte Campbell, were an unstoppable force for years. Is Cate coming back to try and make a 5th Olympics? She would be the first Australian ever to compete in 5 Olympiads.
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
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Jan 10, 2023 • 32min
#296 Meagen Nay on overcoming tragedy, commentating, and the 200 Backstroke
Meagen Nay is Australian Dolphin #667, having swum in two Olympics (2008, 2012) where she placed 7th and 5th, respectively, in the 200 Backstroke. In 2010, Meagen became Commonwealth Champion in the 2 Back in 2:07.56. She trained under Michael Bohl at St. Peter's Western.
Meagen has faced tremendous tragedy in her life. Both her Dad and brother passed away in separate car accidents, 16 years apart.
Most recently, you may have heard her as an Aussie commentator for Amazon Prime!
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law 00:05 Live from Azerbaijan 02:45 Tragic life experiences 04:20 How do you react? 06:30 Michael Bohl 08:30 Commonwealth Gold on her Birthday 10:30 Meagan's Mom 11:50 What now? 12:45 Commentating 14:30 What makes a good commentator? 15:45 Beine Nutrition Genetic Sports Performance 16:32 Specific event for commentating? 19:00 200 Back 22:30 Race awareness 25:00 Where do you think swimming is? 27:48 Swimmer Interviews 31:15 Swim Angelfish Adaptive Swim Lessons
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
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Jan 9, 2023 • 1h 1min
TYR Pro Swim Series, Training in Tech Suits, Aussie Update + SPECIAL GUEST!
Dive Inside LIVE with our fav Brit, The Swimsuit Guy, Sonny Trigg. And, special guest, 2x Australian Olympian, Meagen Nay!
TYR Pro Swim Series kicks off in Knoxville this week. Simone Manuel will compete in her first long course meet since the Olympics almost a year and a half ago. Penny Oleksiak will also back after tearing her meniscus.
And, there should be an Ahmed Hafnaoui sighting. Wu Peng is back!
As well as...
Jordan Crooks, Bjorn Seeliger, Signe Bro, Katie Grimes, Bella Sims, Katie Ledecky, Bobby Finke, Drew Kibbles N' Bits, Kylie Masse, Justin Ress, Kieran Smith, Regan Smith, Ryan Murphy, Leah Smith, Chase Kalisz, and Abbey Weitzeil.
Plus, a bunch of youngins like Daniel Diehl and Charlotte Crush.
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
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Jan 4, 2023 • 3min
Can Leon Marchand Break 4:00 in the 400 IM?
Can the 20 year old Frenchman break Michael Phelps' World Record? I don't think there is any more doubt. But can he break 4:00? Does Bob Bowman believe he can do it? Probably.
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
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Jan 3, 2023 • 43min
#295 Josh Huger talks Tennessee Swimming, Jordan Crooks, Power Training for Swimmers
Josh Huger is an Assistant Coach at the University of Tennessee. Sophomore Jordan Crooks just got back from SC Worlds with a gold medal in the 50 Freestyle.
During the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, the Lady Vols enjoyed a program-record six Olympic qualifiers, as Erika Brown (USA), Tess Cieplucha (Canada), Mona McSharry (Ireland), Cherelle Thompson (Trinidad & Tobago), Kira Toussaint (Netherlands) and Ellen Walshe (Ireland) represented their countries at the Summer Games. The men's squad had three Olympians with Lyubomir Epitropov (Bulgaria), Michael Houlie (South Africa) and Joaquin Vargas (Peru) competing in Tokyo.
Prior to UT, Josh coached at Virginia Tech and William & Mary.
00:00 - Welcome Josh Huger!
00:58 - University of Tennessee Mid-Season Update
03:23 - Approaching a Season Plan
06:22 - Josh Huger Background as a Sprint Coach
08:42 - Josh Establishing His Own Style
11:18 - Jordan Crooks: Hungry to Improve
16:47 - Improving Different Elements of Power
19:50 - Underwater Chute Set
22:11 - Comparing Crooks to Dressel
25:29 - Speed Endurance and Race Experience
29:03 - Incorporating Long-Course Training
31:03 - The State of the Team and the Future
33:22 - Balancing the Pursuit of Championship Titles
36:10 - Everyone Needs Different Food Groups
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
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